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                    <text>Tae

Binghamton University Department of Music

T H U R S D A Y  MID­DAY R E C O G N I T I O N  CONCERT
Ma y 10, 2007 — 
1 :20 P.M.
Casadesus Recital Hall

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The Cascades (1904)

Scott Joplin
(1868­1917)

Bingha mton University Saxophone Q ua rtet :
Amy Natiella, soprano; Emily Alkiewicz, alto;
Michael Marchisotto, tenor;  Marissa Roe, baritone
Recognized by April Lucas, Professor of Saxophone

Aria of Liu, “Signore, ascolta!,”
from “Turandot”

...Giacomo Puccini
(1858­1924)

Katrina Cox, soprano
Chai­Kyou Mallinson, piano
Recognized by Mary Burgess, Professor of Voice

Charles Chapple, composer
recognized by Paul Goldstaub, Professor of Composition

Warum willst du and’re fragen

......Clara Schumann
(1819­1896)

Maria Aimoniotis, soprano
Margaret Reitz, piano
Recognized by Mary Burgess, Professor of Voice

Passacaglia

Rebecca Clarke
(1886­1979)
Melissa Lee, viola
Recognized by Roberta Crawford, Professor of Viola

Si mes vers Avalent des ailes
Miriam Wright, soprano
Chai­Kyou Mallinson, piano
Recognized by Mary Burgess, Professor of Voice

: 

Reynaldo Hahn
(1874­1947)

(Please turn over)

�Fantasia (1948) 
Animé 

H. Villa­Lobos
(1887­1959)
Amy Natiella, saxophone
Margaret Reitz, piano
Recognized by April Lucas, Professor of Saxophone

Damaged 

Richard Pearson Thomas
(b. 1957)
Elizabeth Duh r, mezzo­soprano
Ma rga ret Reitz, piano
Recognized by Duane Skrabalak and Peter Sicilian , Professors of Opera

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(1875­1937)

Soon Young Pa rk, ba ritone
Chai­Kyou Mallinson, piano
Recognized by Timothy L eFebvre, Professor of Voice

* *Please join us for a reception in the Green Room following the concert**

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                    <text>BINGHAMTON
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S PRING C HORAL CONCERT
H arp u r Chorale
Peter Browne, conductor

Women ’s Chorus
Kristina Ruﬀo, conductor
Jod y Sch um, piano

Thursday, May 10, 2007
8:00 p.m.
Anderson Center
Chamber Hall

�PROGRAM
I. Women ’s C ho r us

.. Ruth Watson Henderson

Psalm 100

Imant Raminsh

My Heart’s Friend
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Gioacchino Rossini
Arr, James Q. Mulholland

La Danza

Giocchino Rossini

Duetto buﬀo dh  due gatti

..........William Schuman

Orpheus with his Lute

A­Tisket, Atasket
Tsvey taybelekh

&lt;eeeeeew  Ella Fitzgerald and A l Feldman
arr. David J. Elliott

............Traditional Yiddish Folksong
Arr. Lee R. Kesselman
Traditional Mexican
Arr. Stephen Hatﬁeld
II. H arp u r Chorale

Sanctus in G­major

HDASARDIVDISN  Bach

Faire is the Heaven

............William H. Harris

Sometimes I Feel
Emily Creo, alto soloist
Ain’t Got Time to Die

Douglas Schwartz, tenor soloist

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Traditional Spiritual
Arr. Shaw/Parker
Traditional Spiritual
Arr. Hall Johnson

.. Eric Whitacre

Water Night...........

Traditional American
Arr. James Erb

Shenandoah
Kalinka
Alex Blitstein, tenor soloist

Traditional Russian
Arr. Alex Karpowitsch

�TRANSLATIONS
La Danza

And when you have come to a far­oﬀ land, my love,
Be sure to remember my words of love.
And should you come across a deep ﬁre. my love,
Do not burn for sorrow, my little dove.

Already the moon sets into the sea.
My goodness, she’ll jump right in;
The hour is pleasant for dancing,
And no one in love will want to miss.
Swiftly dancing round and round,
My dear ladies, come to me,
See a handsome smiling fellow
Willing to dance with every one.

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Two doves ﬂew over the wide water,
Spreading their wings high above.
A curse on that person – so evil, so cruel –
Who so soon destroyed our own true love.
Las Amarillas

While the evening stars shine in the sky
And the moon shines bright,
The most handsome with the fairest
Will dance the night away.

The yellow calandras ﬂy from the cactus.
No longer will the cardinals sing happily
To the song na na. to the song na no.
Because the trees on the hillside have not come back to li fe,
For that the calandras will either sing or crush their nests.
You are small and beautiful and I love you just the way you are.
You are like a little rose from the coast o f  Guerrero.

Ju mp. ju mp, t u rn an d t u rn,

Every couple circling round.
Back and forth. over again
And return where you began.

Everybody has their own farewell, but there’s none like this one.

Hold on tight to the blonde,
Take the brunette here and there,
Take the redhead for a turn,
The wallﬂower you better don’t touch.

Four times ﬁ v e  is twenty, three times seven is twenty­one.

Sanctus

Hooray for dancing round and round,
I’m a king, a pasha too,
This is the greatest pleasure on earth,
And the dearest passion!

Holy, holy, holy, Lord God of Sabaoth;
Heaven and earth are full of your glory.

Mamma mia. my goodness!

Refrain: Kalinka mine! In  the garden grows a berry like sweet wine.
Tsvey Tay belekh

Two doves ﬂew over the wide water,
Their loving beaks kissing high above.
A curse on that person – so evil. so cruel –
Who tore from me my own true love.

And when you have come to a far­oﬀ land. my love.
Be sure to remember my words of love.
And when you have come to deep waters, my love.
Do not frown for sorrow, my little dove.

Kalin ka (Little Snowball Bush)

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1. Under the pine tree, under the green tree, there I’ll lay me down to sleep.
(Refrain)
2. Little pine tree, thou evergreen tree, with your rustling do not wake me.

(Refrain)
3. Oh, my darling, lovely maiden, won’t you promise to be mine.
(Refrain)

~

�The Har pu r Choral e

ABOUT  THE P ERFOR MERS

Peter Browne, conductor

So p rano
Jenna Gatt i
Ayla Gordon
Jaclyn Hochreiter
Allison Metcalfe
Elizabeth Sterling
Jessica Sum ber
Lynsey Zuar

Tenor
Alex Blitstein
Seth Makarowitz
Ross Matthei
Joseph Rousseau
Douglas Sc hwartz

Alto
Emily Creo
Monica Lee
Rachel Maller
Rachel New by
Sophie Nusinov
Corinne Paull
Jennifer Paull

Bass
Eric Dinowitz
Adam Hess
Ezra Monasebian
John Paap
David Parisi
Theodore Trembinski

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KRISTIN A  RUFFO  is  a  graduate  choral  conducting  student  at
Binghamton University.  She  received  her  BA  from  Ithaca College  in
Music Education.  This is her second semester conducting the  Women’s
Chorus and is very proud of their success as an ensemble. She is a member
of the Un iversity C horus, an d also teaches a sight singing class to  help
students improve in  their reading abilities and conﬁdence in singing. She
is  also  involved  in  an  A frican Drumming  class  with  Professor  James
Burns. She was awarded the Keeler Scholarship this year that has helped
her continue with her education. During the day, she teaches full­time at
the Maine­Endwell High School and  is director of the  Mixed Chorus,
Madrigal Choir, and Quartet, as well as teaching a theory course. Kristina
resides in Binghamton, NY w ith her husband and is looking forward to a
successful semester with the Women’s Chorus.

The Wom en ’s Chorus
Kristina R uﬀo, conductor
Jod y Sch um, accompanist

So p rano 1
Hiu Nam Wien  Cheng
Rebecca Cohen

Jodi Epstein
Alex Haines
Jillian Karp
Jana Kucera
Liann Liebowitz
Erin Rabideau
Melissa Sones
Desiree Winnett

Soprano 2
Dina Boccuzzi
Anjuli Bose
Esther Choi
Eliza Espinosa­Thomas
Stephanie Haigney
Katherine Hassfurter
Crista Havener
Shaina Carmel Indovi no
Denise Manukian

Maria Murphy
Priscilla Pouchie
Amanda P ress
Jaclyn Wallach
Kate Welb y

Alto l
Desiree Bass

Perin A. Colah
Laura Groteke
Carly Maughan
Katherine Navarette
Elisa Weiss
Alto 11
Danielle Barbanell
Daron Blake
Alicia Caruso
Katherine Courage
Sarah Golden
Randall Wong

PETER B ROWNE , director of Harpu r Chorale, received  his  BA from
Bard  College  and  MM  in  Organ  Performan ce  from  Binghamton
University, where he studied with Paul Jordan, Searle Wright, and David
Buttolph.  He has done additional work at Westm inster Choir College and
several other schools, and was the recipient of a fellowship to study choral
conducting  with  Sir  David  Willcocks,  former  director  of the  King’s
College Choir, Cam bridge, and the Bach Choir of London.  Since 1981, he
has been the  organist  and choir director  at  Trinity  Memorial  Church.
Binghamton. having previously served in other churches in Pennsylvania,
Connecticut  and New   York.  He  is currently  the  accompanist  for  the
University  Chorus and teaches musicianship as  well. Mr.  Browne has
performed as a director, soloist, and accompanist throughout the eastern
United States and Canada, and in England and Wales.

.

­

JODY S C H U M  is a versatile pianist, organist and vocal coach originally
from  Windsor,  NY.  Currently  on  faculty  at  SUNY  Cortland  and
Binghamton University, he also is resident pianist with Tri­ Cities Opera
in Binghamton, NY .  Mr. Schum has performed  with the  Binghamton
University Symphon y Orchestra, Tri­Cities Opera and on numerous solo
and colla borative  recitals  at  Binghamton  University.  His  most  recent
engagement  was  performing  and  studying  on  fellowship  with  the
International  Institute  of  Vocal  Arts  in  Chiari,  Italy  last  summer.
Upcoming engagements include a sacred music concert with soprano Julia
Ebner and a recital with baritone  Timothy LeFebvre at Elebash Recital
Hall in New York City.  Mr. Schum is Music Director at the First United
Methodist Church of Endicott, NY.

�The Harpu r Chora le
Peter Browne, conductor

Ayla Gordon

Tenor
Alex Blitstein
Seth Makarowitz
Ross Matthei
Joseph Rousseau
Douglas Schwartz

Alto
Emily Creo
Monica Lee
Rachel Maller
Rachel Newby
Sophie Nusinov
Corinne Paull

Bass
Eric Dinowitz
Adam Hess
Ezra Monasebian
John Paap
David Parisi
Theodore Trembinski

So p rano
Jenna Ga tti

Jaclyn Hochreiter
Allison Metcalfe
Elizabeth Sterling
Jessica Sumber
Lynsey Zuar

Jennifer Paull

The Wo men ’s Chorus
Kristina Ruﬀo, conductor
Jody Schum, accompanist

So p rano l
Hiu Nam Wien Cheng
Rebecca Cohen
Jodi Epstein
Alex Haines
Jillian Karp
Jana Kucera
Liann Liebowitz
Erin Rabideau
Melissa Sones
Desiree W innett
Soprano 2
Dina Boccuzzi
Anjuli Bose
Esther Choi
Eliza Espinosa­Thomas
Stephanie Haigney
Katherine Hassfurter
Crista Havener
Shaina Carmel lndovino
Denise Manukian

Maria Murphy
Priscilla Pouchie
Amanda Press
Jaclyn W allach
Kate Welby
A lto 1
Desiree Bass
Perin A. Colah
Laura Groteke
Carly Ma ughan
Katherine Navarett e
Elisa Weiss
Alto l l

Danielle Barbanell
Daron Blake

Alicia Caruso
Katherine Courage
Sarah Golden
Randall Wong

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                    <text>BINGHAMTON
U N I V E R S I T Y

State University of New York

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TRUMPET
with

Ma rga ret Reitz, piano
assisted by
Lee Fer ra ra, hor n
A my Hoxie, t r u m pet
Paul Blake, t rom bone
Ch ris Ru benac ker, t u ba

Saturday, May 12, 2007
8:00 p.m.
C asadesus Recital Hall

�ABOUT THE PERFORMERS

PROGRAM
Sonata in D
Andante
Allegro
Grave
Allegro

u

s  s.i. . 

.  Giuseppe Torelli

(1658­1709)

Concerto for Trumpet in Eb
Allegro
Andante
Allegro

Joseph Haydn
(1 732­1809)

INTERMISSION

Seven Miniatures for Unaccompanied Trumpet
Fanfare
Dodecophony
Calculation
Theme
Variation
Intonation
Fanfare
Suite from the Monteregian Hills
for Brass Quintet
La Marche
Chanson Melancolique
Valse Ridicule
Danse V illageoise

...George Andrix
(b. 1932)

WILLIAM GILCHREST is a second year graduate student at B.U.  He
teaches K­12 chorus and general music at Schenevus Central School.
MARGARET REITZ, pianist, is a native of the Binghamton Area.  She
received her Bachelor and Master of Music degrees in piano performance
with  accompanying  emphasis,  and  attended  Boston  University,  New
England Conservatory and Binghamton University.  She has studied piano
with Jean Casadesus, Victor Rosenbaum, Seymour Fink and Walter Ponce
and accompanying with Allen Rogers. She has accompanied throughout
the United States, England, South America, and at the American Institute
o f  Musical  Studies  in Graz, Austria. Reitz and Binghamton University
faculty  member  Timothy  Perry  were  winners  of  the  1997  Artistic
Ambassadors  Program  by  the  United  States  Information  Agency  in
partnership  with  the  John F. Kennedy Center  for the  Performing  Arts.
During the summer of 2005, Reitz, clarinetist Timothy  Perry and cellist
Stephen  Stalker  were  invited  to  perform  at  the  International  Clarinet
Conference in Tokyo, Japan.  Other notable performances include guest
chamber music artist  in Morges, Switzerland and guest soloist  with the
Binghamton University Orchestra.  She was the oﬀic ial accompanist at the
MTNA State and Eastern Division Competition at Ithaca College in 2001
and will be returning in 2006.  In addition, she was selected to attend the
Accompanying Workshop for Singers and Pianists held at Northwestern
University.  During the summer of 2006, she will compose the musical
score for an independent ﬁlm by MANDIS Production, to be released in
February 2007.
L E E  F ERRARA teaches science at Oneonta High School where he also
coaches the volley ball team.

.. Morley Calvert
(1 928­1 991 )

A M Y  H O X I E  is a Band director at Sidney Elementary School.

P A U L  B L A K E  is a Band director at Ritchﬁeld Springs High School.
CHRIS RUBENACKER is a recent graduate of Hartwick College.  He
majored in Music Education.

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&lt;h3&gt;The McKiernan 22&lt;/h3&gt;&#13;
&lt;div&gt;Stephen McKiernan interviewed legends of the 1960s. When asked in 2021 where one should start when sifting through his vast collection, he provided the following list:&lt;/div&gt;&#13;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/854"&gt;Julian Bond&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/1866"&gt;Bobby Muller&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/910"&gt;Dr. Arthur Levine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/837"&gt;Diane Carlson Evans&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/942"&gt;Dr. Ellen Schrecker&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/876"&gt;Dr. Lee Edwards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/841"&gt;Peter Coyote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/899"&gt;Rennie Davis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/1222"&gt;Kim Phuc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/917"&gt;George McGovern&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/840"&gt;Rev. Dr. Frank Forrester Church &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/1240"&gt;Dr. Marilyn Young&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/1159"&gt;Charles Kaiser&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://omeka.binghamton.edu/omeka/items/show/2407"&gt;Joseph Lewis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#13;
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              <text>McKiernan Interviews&#13;
Interview with: Judy Campbell &#13;
Interviewed by: Stephen McKiernan&#13;
Transcriber: REV&#13;
Date of interview: 7 July 2007&#13;
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(Start of Interview)&#13;
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SM (00:00:09):&#13;
Okay, thank you very much for doing the interview. First question I would like to ask is, when you think of the (19)60s, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? When you think of the (19)60s and early (19)70s... And again, the (19)60s and early (19)70s, that period up to about 1973 is still considered part of the (19)60s, a lot of people in the history books consider that. But what comes to your mind when you think of that era?&#13;
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Well, when I think of the (19)60s, I immediately think of Vietnam. It was a teenager during that time and the evening news was, "Vietnam-Vietnam-Vietnam-Vietnam." And friends, and loved ones, and family members went to Vietnam, so the first thing I think of is Vietnam when I think of the (19)60s. I know there has been a lot of emphasis on the Vietnam era, the Woodstock era, and the hippies and everything, but to me, I think that was really a small minority of people, it was just that they were in the press. I mean, there was a large majority of people who were not involved in that, but I think there was an unfair assessment that was the typical person growing up in the (19)60s, was a hippie that went to Woodstock, the love generation kind of thing.&#13;
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Was there one experience for you that set up, the (19)60s began for me, your personal experience? And also, when did you know that period was over based on a personal experience in your life?&#13;
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For me, the (19)60s began in (19)67. As I said earlier, I was just a teenager, I was a kid, I was wrapped up in my school life, my friends. But in (19)67 my brother left for Vietnam, and I remember vividly standing outside the circle of Washington National Airport now Raegan Airport. And it was beautiful January sunny day, we did not even have coats on it was so beautiful. And I took my brother to the airport, and we stood outside the circle, he had on his Green Beret uniform, and he would not let me go into the airport with him. He embraced me, patted me on my fanny, and told me three things which I will never forget. One was, "I am doing this to keep you free. Men with wives and babies should not have to go. My medic skills are needed." And then he turned and he went into the airport, and that was the last time I saw him tragically, 19 days later he was killed. Interestingly enough, my husband and I recently took a trip back to Washington and we went to go to that very spot, as my husband never knew my brother. However, over the years, Richard has often said to me he knows him through me, but based upon the timeframe of when my brother left, Richard said, "I probably checked him in." Because Richard was working at United Airlines at the ticket counter. So we went back to the airport, and it was really funny because the airport's totally different. And we went to the ticket counter, we were hesitating to go to the ticket counter to speak to these ticket agents at their line behind the counter. And we looked at one another and we said, "They are so young, they are not even going to know what we are talking about." Well, a police officer who was very young as well saw us, and came up to us, and evidently they must train the police officers who work at National Airport about the history of the airport, because we told him specifically the spot we were looking for and he directed us to it. And we told him a reason and everything, and he was very gracious. We went to the very spot, and we were able to stand in the spot where I last saw Keith, and wanted to walk through the door that he had walked through, which is now boarded up. The construction crew were working on the door, and they said, "Sorry lady, we just boarded this up. We cannot take the board down, but it is a good thing you came when you did because it is going to be concrete pretty soon, and you are not even going to see the board." So we were able to stand in the doorway per se, with a board behind us, at the exact space where my brother walked through. And the ticket counter is now a storage closet, and the gentleman allowed us a tour of the storage closet. So we went down memory lane, it was a nice venture. But to answer your question about... That was the biggest thing to me, because it was such a rude awakening to me to get out of my own little world, teenager, school, friends. I had a rude awakening to what life was really all about.&#13;
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SM (00:05:42):&#13;
When did it end?&#13;
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JC (00:05:49):&#13;
I do not think there is an ending, I think the boomers of the (19)60s' generation have a tremendous impact on the youth today. There seems to be a perception even in the workforce, that there is not always the respect there for the boomers, but there is a two-sided story there. You tend sometimes to have the younger generation think, my education, my knowledge, I may be your boss someday, which sometimes often is very much the case. Your boss is much younger than you are, and sometimes the age of your own children. And then boomers sometimes tend to have that attitude, "Hey, look, I have been here longer than you have. I have climbed the ropes." And there is a lot of truth to be said for both, but there needs to be a respect between the two. And I think with my generation, I really felt that there was more family time. I have a friend of mine who runs a daycare center, she was having the worst time getting the children to sit down for lunch, she could not figure out why she could not control these children to sit down for lunch. So she finally sent a survey home to the parents about, "What time do you have dinner? Where do you eat dinner?" And 99 percent of the responses came back, "Hey, I do not get home from work till 7, 7:30 at night, the kid is almost ready for bed." Bottom line was the children do not have that family time, that quality time, sitting down and eating meals together. Whereas I think there is a lot to be said for the generation where I grew up, it was very important, family time. I mean, my mother was a single parent with four children and worked three jobs, but there were certain routines in our family that she never allowed to not take place. i.e. Sunday night was always popcorn night, The Ed Sullivan Show, and curling up with mom, and time together. And I do not think there is enough of that anymore, I think the younger generation today raising their own children can really learn a lot from us. And our generation as well, we were children of parents from the depression, and our parents wanted to provide for us the things that they did not have. And we were financially, that timeframe in our country, economy wise, I think probably in one of the best shapes we were ever in. And I think the youth today need to understand that it is important for them not to live on credit, but to strive to work to own something, be it their own home, or car, or just to learn the value of money, and not this perception that things should just be handed to them. And I would even go a step further with that, with our freedoms. I think there is just a perception by so many people sadly, that we just assume we can get up in the morning, and go to work, and go to the gym, and go do our extracurricular activities, and not think about anything else. And I am reflecting on a conversation I had with a Gold Star Mother just earlier today, because she had written a letter to the editor, and I was calling her on a different matter. But recently she had a letter to the editor about we are having some warm weather here lately, in the (19)90s, which is a little unseasonably hot for us. And she was saying, "People are complaining about being in this hot weather." She said, "Think about our men and women overseas carrying all their gear and it is 130 degrees." I just think there is a lot... Now that we are in a war again, there is a lot that people do not appreciate and value. And one of the main things that I think they should really appreciate the value of is our freedom. They affectionately call me at work flag lady, because I keep them straight on the flag etiquette issues. And they affectionately call me that, but they also know why I am a flag lady, because it is not a piece of cloth.&#13;
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SM (00:10:42):&#13;
A very good thought. So what are your thoughts on the boomer generation? And again, when we define the boomer generation, some people will say it's individuals that were born between 1943 and 1961, and then others will say it's those individuals born between (19)46 and (19)64, but basically in that basic timeframe. There has been a lot of criticism by critics like George Will, and Newt Gingrich, and others complaining that the boomer generation is really a lot of the ills of our current society today, we can blame right on that generation, their lifestyles, the way they lived, all the characteristics, their activism, and so forth. What are your thoughts on those individuals who criticize the boomer generation for creating the problems we have in our society, and what are the problems? Again, defining the issues on drugs in our society, the issue of broken families, divorce rates being higher than they have ever been, just the overall characteristics of some of the ills of our society today, and blaming it on the generation.&#13;
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JC (00:12:11):&#13;
I actually think that that is a real misconception, because I think as I said earlier, the percentage of people who did the drugs, and the love movement, and the hippie movement, and all that, were a minority. And I think it is a very unfair assessment to say that the boomer generation was creative of all these negative things. I do not know if it was, because that generation, there was so much. If you look back at film clips from the (19)60s and (19)70s in the news, you will see so much about Woodstock, and the drugs, and the hippies. And I think even my own children probably thought I drove around in a VW bus with peace symbols on it, that was not true. I think it really... Maybe it is a media to blame, I do not know. But there was just too much emphasis put on that, and I really think it was maybe 5 percent of the people were in that category. Actually, I think it's unfair and unjust to say that, because the boomers I know turned out to be very productive citizens who have good jobs, work hard to provide for their families, and are successful contributing citizens. So, I just do not fall into that acceptance of that.&#13;
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When you think of...&#13;
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JC (00:13:44):&#13;
When you think of specific individuals, as you mentioned, I think that was a small percentage of people, I truly do. And I just think people tend to sometimes... You want to look at the glass half full or half empty, I am the type of individual that wants to look at it half full. And I think a lot of people then when they're looking at this, are looking at the negative and the half empty glass, and pulling into these individuals. I really do not think that they have the impact that people tend to say that they do.&#13;
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It is interesting because this is 2007, and all you are hearing about in some of the higher education materials is the Summer of Love of 1967, which this is 40 years ago.&#13;
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And you are still hearing that.&#13;
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SM (00:14:31):&#13;
Yeah, you are still hearing it now, anybody who was in the Bay Area knows that was big. That was big, the Summer of Love, and the music and everything, so there is definitely an impact here. But how many people were actually part of the Summer of Love when you really think about it within the...&#13;
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JC (00:14:59):&#13;
Geographically, you could not have even gotten all those people in Woodstock if you tried.&#13;
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Right. Yeah, they were kind of happenings for the people that were there and all. But if you look at the boomer generation now, and again, when someone who might counter what you just said in terms of, "Well, the boomers were 70 million strong, and maybe 15 percent were involved in activism and involved in some of the activities, anti-war movement, civil rights, women's movement and so forth." And some of the interviews I have had come up with that 15 percent as well. But the 85 percent who were not involved were subconsciously affected by this. So, when you look at the bloomer generation as a generation, what are the positive qualities that you see in this generation, and what are some of the negative qualities that you have perceive?&#13;
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JC (00:15:52):&#13;
Well, I would say some of the positive qualities were there was more family time, more openness and communication. And maybe that is why somebody can come back and say all this hippie stuff, whatever, but that was their way of expressing the openness and the feeling of freedom. There was more openness and honesty, and even if there was an era of disagreement, there was a respect with that disagreement, and an acceptance of difference of opinion and values. I would say the least admired, who were rebellious, and tended to lead the forefront for generations. I keep emphasizing that, I do not really think that there were that many of them, I just think there was more emphasis put on them. But I really think our generation had more values, and I think one of the downfalls for some of the values is when they took prayer out of school, I really believe that. I mean, heaven forbid if they ever say, "In God we trust, take that off of our money." I mean, what is next? I mean, when I said there was more openness, I mean, I have friends and still do who were of many different religious persuasions, and they are respecting of my own religion, I am respecting them theirs. But when I was in school, it was a common practice to open the day with prayer, Pledge of Allegiance. And I vividly remember Mrs. Brown, my sixth grade teacher, having the Bible on her desk. I mean, you would never see that today. I remember recently attending a luncheon and there was a veteran there, and we were commenting on the patriotism, " When did you learn how to fold a flag?" We were talking about that. And he said, "I never learned how to fold a flag until I was in the military." And my husband would always ask me, "Where did you learn to fold the flag?" And I said, "In school." In elementary school when we got to school, we stood around the flag pole, we raised the flag, and at the end of the school day we went outside and we sang the song, Day is Done, Gone the Sun, and we dropped the flag down and we folded it. I have been in different buildings, there was a gym that we used to belong to, and they raised the flag every morning. And the gentleman had not raised the flag, and I watched him go to get the flag, and it was in one of those postal plastic mail bins just thrown in there. It just got under my skin to think when they took the flag down at the end of the day, they just balled it up and threw it in there. And then one day I was on the exercise equipment at the gym, and I hopped off, I went running over to the guy at the counter, and he said, "What's wrong?" And I said, "My goodness. Find whoever's responsible for the flag and get it corrected immediately." They had it hanging upside down. And he said, "What does that mean?" And everybody saw all this commotion, and saw how upset I was, and they came running over, and I said, "The flag is upside down." "Well, what does that mean?" I am saying to myself, "You are a veteran." I mean, these are mature people who do not know common things like flag etiquette. I mean, if a flag is upside down it means you are in distress. I mean, that is a very serious situation, especially now we are in a war on terrorism.&#13;
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SM (00:19:57):&#13;
During that timeframe, if you remember, some flag was burned at times.&#13;
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JC (00:20:03):&#13;
Oh, my goodness, nothing gets under my skin more than that. And I think that, again, is something that we need to stress to the new generation. When you talk about the flag, and that that happened, that was despicable. When you talk about things in that area that would get under my skin, that would be that. I had friends after my brother was killed who would come into our home, and say months after he was dead, "I cannot come into your house, it is like a shrine." I said, "What do you mean it is like a shrine? We have not changed anything." His picture was on the mantle. I said, "Do you think we are going to take his picture off the mantle because he is dead?" There is an expression, and I am not going to quote it correctly, you may know what it is, it is something to the effect, "You are not dead until you are forgotten." To me, that is the worst thing that we can do, is to forget. So the current generation can learn from us, and could learn from the Vietnam era. And they are building the center down in Washington to help educate the youth of tomorrow, which is vital, and very important for the continuation of our history because we can learn. Yes, a lot of people get upset about the Vietnam War, it can be a very controversial war. I have several coats, and jackets, and things that have been presented to me over the years that I treasure, and some of them have patches on them. And one has a patch on it, "If we lost the war in Vietnam, we would be speaking Vietnamese." I have had friends say to me, "My gosh, why do you keep talking about your brother and everything. The war is over, it is dead. We have lost that war, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah." And I am like, "The worst thing you can ever say to me is that his life was a loss." I hear that and I cringe, almost as much as somebody burning the flag. I cannot go to the Vietnam Memorial wall and look at over 58,000 plus names and say, "That is a loss." It is not a waste, it is not a loss, those are men and women who sacrificed the ultimate, that war was not lost on the battlefield. I am not into politics, I do not care to be into politics, I am thankful that I have the freedom to vote for politicians, and I hopefully pray and trust that democracy will continue to lead us in the road to continue to have the freedoms to express. I will leave the politics up to the politicians, but I will defend and perpetuate the memory of my brother and his brothers as long as there is breath in me. And I think that it is our duty to do that for the citizens today.&#13;
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SM (00:23:10):&#13;
I am in a hundred percent agreement with everything you are saying here, one thing that really upsets me in a similar vein is you cannot even talk about Vietnam today. I work on a university campus.&#13;
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JC (00:23:23):&#13;
Now I agree with you, I think that bothers me a lot too.&#13;
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SM (00:23:26):&#13;
And I work on a university campus, and I go down to the Vietnam Memorial, I put the pictures up in the glass case. I put it up only because it is an educational tool. Every time I go to the Vietnam Memorial on Memorial Day or Veterans Day, I put the pictures up two weeks later after they are developed. I put them in the glass case. I show the pictures, and it is as an education tool, I have been doing that for 15 years. And when we brought The Wall That Heals to our campus, and we had speakers back in 2000, 2001, I keep hearing amongst fellow boomers that this is a new generation, they had different issues. "Just remember, Steve, when you were young, were you talking about World War II?" It upsets me, because I think we have to really make sure that history is never forgotten. And what is interesting is, if students do not know it, then it is our responsibility to be educators too. We have to be educators here, we all have to be educators. And so, what you are talking about, about your brother, is your brother can never be forgotten, that he did give the ultimate price. Those 58,000 names... When I go down to Washington now, I always go to the Vietnam Memorial first, it is my generation, but I am also going to where my dad served in World War II, who did not live long enough to see that wall. So, I go there and I go to the Pacific War section, and I take my dad down, and I take my dad's picture, and he is with me. And I go over to the Pacific and my dad is there, and so it is about serving your country, it's about giving the ultimate. And that is why Vietnam vets, you always say welcome home to them. I do not care who they are, where they are, I welcome them home. Even though no one said it to them in 30 years, I am going to say it to them.&#13;
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JC (00:25:46):&#13;
We were up in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, and we were at a store, friend of ours has a store there. And this gentleman had come in the store, and he had on a Vietnam cap. And we were talking, and then we left about the same time, and I was parked on the side of the street, and he was walking across the street. And as he left to go across the street, I said, "Thank you for serving." He got to the island of the street, he turned around and he came back, and he got right in my face, and he said, "What did you say?" And I got a little skittish. I mean, here I am on the street alone in Upper Darby, with this man in my face. And I said, "Thank you for serving." And he said, "Nobody has ever said that to me." So, I echo your sentiments, that it is our responsibility to show the example that we are to thank our veterans of all wars, of Korea, of World War II, Granada. I mean, there are a number of conflicts that people have forgotten about, Beirut. There's all kinds of conflicts that people tend to forget about. When people talk about the Vietnam War, and a negative concept that they have of that timeframe of life. Forget it, get over it. I have something that I always give back to them, and I share this with Vietnam veterans. And there is one Vietnam veteran who is very dear to our... They are all dear to our hearts. But I remember being at a reunion in Rochester, Minnesota, and I remember vividly being in the Fellowship Room hospitality suite, and this veteran who resembles the country western singer... Oh, what is his name?&#13;
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SM (00:27:43):&#13;
Current? Willie Nelson?&#13;
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JC (00:27:46):&#13;
Willie Nelson. Actually, without having this man's permission to use his name, I will not use his name, but he knows who I am talking about. I call him Willie, because he is the spitting image of him, he could be his twin. We went in deep conversation, this group at our table, about PTSD, post-traumatic stress disorder, which a number of youth today do not even know what that means. And I looked at him and I said to him, "Do you remember the best things that ever happened to you in your life? You have got your college degree, you got married, you have had your children, in whatever order." We all start laughing. I said, "Think about the most positive things that have ever happened to you in your life. Have you forgotten them? Of course not, so how in the world can anybody expect you to forget the most difficult, the most painful, the most challenging times that have happened to you in your life? You cannot forget it, it is what molds you, and shapes you, and makes you who you are. And for people to tell people, forget it, it's passed, it is just not possible, you cannot do that." I was talking to Gold Star Mother, [inaudible].&#13;
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JC (00:29:02):&#13;
Yeah. I talked... Was talking to a Gold Star mother, several Gold Star mothers this morning. And one lost her son in Iraq in December of last year. And she told me she does not go out of the house. Now is not that awful? And we are going to work on that. We are going to change that. And these are the kind of things that the generation today. With this current war, you have some men that are being deployed five, six times. Who is cutting the grass? Who is fixing the broken garbage disposal? Who is helping with the leaky roof? We need to be banding together to help these families. And I think this is the thing that we can learn so much from the Vietnam Era, and the Vietnam veterans are doing that. They never want the veterans today to be treated in the manner in which they were. I think another area that is very sensitive but strongly needs to be addressed. Very strongly I believe. And this is our churches. Our very churches who profess love and forgiveness have slammed the door, many of them, on our veterans. I have spoken to a Vietnam veteran who... well, I did not personally speak to him, but I know someone that did. And I value this person's words, so I know it is true. This Vietnam veteran came back from Vietnam, bought a motorcycle in California, drove to Indiana to see his mother. It was Easter Sunday morning. Obviously he was very dirty and grubby. He had just driven across country. And the deacon stopped him as he is going into the church and said, "You cannot go in there looking like that." And he said, "You do not understand. I just came back from Vietnam. It's Easter Sunday. My mother's in there. She does not even know I am home." And the deacon said, "You do not understand. You cannot go in there looking like that." Well, I will give to this generation this. No, I do not agree in today's attire. If that would happen today. The way kids dress today.&#13;
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I know it.&#13;
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JC (00:31:04):&#13;
He would be welcome church I am part of. I wear blue jeans to church now. But there is... We have to have this ability to embrace one another and accept one another. And I think too back in the era when I grew up. There was a lot of unjust things done to African Americans. I never understood that and I still do not. Because when I grew up. I grew up in Arlington, Virginia. And I went to Washington Lee High School. To the same high school Sandra Bullock went to. The brother and sister. I cannot think of their names. Warren Beatty. Shirley McClain.&#13;
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Oh, wow.&#13;
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JC (00:31:56):&#13;
Of course I graduated much after their time. Much.&#13;
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Yeah.&#13;
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JC (00:31:59):&#13;
They graduated way before me. But anyway. I used to walk home from high school and there was a development near us called Halls Hill. Only African-Americans lived there. Only whites lived where we lived. But my girlfriend and I, Kathy Clark, we would walk home together. We would walk through my development first. I would go home and she would walk on her merry way. Kathy to me was not black, African American, whatever. Even today, if I get an application in a store or a survey or whatever. They will have the question on there. What your race is.&#13;
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SM  (00:32:41):&#13;
Yeah.&#13;
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JC (00:32:45):&#13;
I always cross it out and I go, "Why does this matter?" And I will put, "There is one color and it is red. It is blood red." And that is the way I was raised. I have never understood this black and white issue because it is not the way I was raised. Now our daughter, when she was in college. Consequently, our children were not raised that way. She went to college in the south. She had a job off campus and she called me. Waitressing. And she called me. She said, "Oh mom, you would not believe this." She is 32 years old, so this is not that long ago. She said, "You would not believe it. We are having lunch break. And the blacks are sitting on one side of the room and the whites are on the other. So my friend who I really talk with them all the time is over with the blacks. So I walk over there to sit with them. And they say, 'You want to sit here?'" She said, "Well, why would not I want to sit here?" Now this is still going on today. This is despicable.&#13;
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SM  (00:33:53):&#13;
Yeah. This is a big issue. Again, in higher ed. Because of the fact that... If Dr. King were alive today. Always say if Dr. King were alive. But it was all about integration. And now we have the decision of self-segregation. And to me, it's shocking. And the Boomers who went through this era of the Civil Rights Movement and all the things that happened. And again, a lot of the young people of color and people who were not of color who did not experience this when they were young do not know what it was like. And I do not know what the parents have done to educate their kids. It gets into a question then. When you were young and a lot of people I was around felt that era, the (19)60s, early (19)70s, was a time when as a young people we could change the world.&#13;
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Oh, yeah.&#13;
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We were going to be the most. And there was this feeling. It's almost an arrogance. But at that time, it was just a feeling, I do not even know if we thought about arrogance. But a feeling that we are the most unique generation in American history. And we are going to end racism, we are going to end sexism, we are going to end... We are going to have peace in the world. We are going to do all things. Your thoughts on that kind of an attitude that was held by a lot of people in the Boomer generation. And just your thoughts on... Thank you. They were the unique generation. Looking at it from when you were young and looking at it today.&#13;
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JC (00:35:33):&#13;
You know I agree. We were a unique generation. And I think it was the values and the principles that we were raised with, and we are willing to stand behind those values and principles.&#13;
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SM  (00:35:53):&#13;
What are the values? When you mention the values and the principles. What are the values and the principles again that you felt that...&#13;
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JC (00:35:58):&#13;
Respect. There was no way I would go over to a friend's house and... Say the mother's name is Diane Smith. There would be no way I would say, "Hey, Diane. How are you today?" It would be, "Hi, Mrs. Smith. How are you today?" And we had chores we had to do. Again, as I told you my mother was a single parent with four kids. And we had a bulletin board going down the steps. And we each had our list of chores. And you better bet your sweet bippy those chores better be done, or you were not going to have any extracurricular activities. Be it to the football game or going out for hamburgers on Saturday. My mother always took me out for hamburgers and milkshake on Saturday. I do not recommend doing that today. You have got to spend in another way for that today. But they are... I think today's generation and the... I look at the youth in my office. I do not know when they have time to spend with their children. I am fortunate. I have a very brief commute to work. But some of these people have... Are on the road 45 minutes, hour, two hours a day just to get to work. How can you really have quality time with your children when you get home? I do not know how they do it. And then again, I think... I get back to the values of not living on credit. I look at some of these kids in my office today and hear where they live and go, "My goodness. How can you afford to live there? How can you afford those taxes?" And they keep wanting more and more and bigger and bigger. Some girl in my office working on... She and her husband are working on fixing up their house. And I said, "Oh, that is wonderful. You are doing all this work around the house." Oh, yeah. We are selling it. Buy bigger and bigger. They want bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And how are they paying for this? I think they can learn from... Our generation, as I said earlier, had the parents from The Depression. And there was almost an extreme there because they had nothing.&#13;
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Right.&#13;
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JC (00:38:15):&#13;
And then they want to provide for us and give us. They need to learn the values of saving a buck. Having respect for their elders. How many times I have been at work carrying a... They are not necessarily work, but some of. Because I do have a wonderful office. I do not want to give that perception. But I am sitting there loaded with grocery packages or whatever. And this 25-year-old to 30-year-old kid walks out the door and left the door kicking in the face while you are standing there struggling. And I am like... I come home and I... Next time I talk to my son, he is 34, I give him the big lecture. "Mother, what are you giving the big lecture for? I did not slam the door in your face." My point is you see a lady carrying groceries, you open the door for her. Now it is amazing to me that one time I said thank you to a gentleman for doing that. And he said to me. I could not believe it. It was at the post office. This was just a couple years ago. And he said to me, "Well, I hesitated doing that." And I said, "Well, why did you hesitate doing that?" And he said, "Because one time I did that and the woman [inaudible]." I got to pay this eventually. He just kept... And now they have the soda machines with the... We were out a couple weeks ago with our kids and we walked by a soda machine. And my son said, "Oh, you want to bottle of water?" I said, "Sure." I started to go in my purse to get out of dollar bill or whatever it was. He said, "Oh no, mom. I will get it." And he gets out a credit card. Flashes it in front of the screen and goes.&#13;
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SM  (00:39:53):&#13;
Yeah.&#13;
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JC (00:39:53):&#13;
And I said, "I do not understand. Why did you do that? Why do not you use money?" He said, "Nobody carries money anymore."&#13;
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Yeah.&#13;
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JC (00:39:53):&#13;
And I said, "Well, does this mean then that you are managing money well? Because you can keep track of even every dollar you spend for every bottle of water or soda you buy?"&#13;
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And what was his answer?&#13;
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Yeah. He said, "I can." That is okay. He has got two kids.&#13;
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SM  (00:40:19):&#13;
Getting back to this. We talked about the percentage of people involved in activism. I want to ask you about your thoughts on activism as a whole. Activism is defined as... Who defines it? A history professor said this to me yesterday. He says, "Whose definition is this?" And I said, "Well, [inaudible] would say that activism is basically individuals who want to make a difference in this world." People who want to make a difference in the world is to me what the definition of activism is. But there seems to be a... In higher education today, a fear of activism. And looking at activism as a negative activism. Because they kept perceptions of what it was in the past. They think of the (19)60s. They think of disruption. They think of shutting things down. They think of nothing but negative. What is your thought on... When you think of the anti- war movement, how important were the young people of the Boomer generation in ending the war in Vietnam and basically their involvement? What are your thoughts on their involvement in the anti-war movement? Knowing that your brother served and died, yet there were young people that were out there protesting that war. The anti-war movement itself. Your thoughts on those individuals. I have had some conversations with people down at the wall. Some other mothers who have lost their...&#13;
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JC (00:41:38):&#13;
I even watched recently more protests going on in our area. Off of two and two. And I... It is very emotional to me when I see people protesting war. And I just want to go up to them and really get involved. And I know that I should not act on emotion, so I do not do it. I tend to be a very emotional person anyway. I look at it as... Because of men like my brother. Because of men and women that are on that wall in Vietnam. The Vietnam Memorial Wall. And the men and women that died in Iraq. Because of what they did for our freedom and our democracy. It is all for them and afforded these people the right to protest. I do not agree with them. With the current war, nobody wants war. I do not know what the answer is with this war. I just heard today, 10 more Americans were killed. I find sometimes I cannot watch the news anymore. And I know that is narrow minded. Putting on blinders that way, going to that extreme. It is a reality that we are in. I read something one time, and... I read that the dreams we shared as a family, referring to when my brother was killed. The dreams we shared as a family were changed forever on that fateful day. But as the years progressed and grief lifted its ugly veil, I found continued healing. A belief that he is watching every step that I make and [inaudible]. It has not been easy along this journey, and oftentimes it's very painful. But just as my mother taught us, if you believe in something give it your all and always remember to do good for others. [inaudible]. But what really counts in man's heart is the ability to have freedom to express that heart. Your life, the life of my brother, [inaudible]. You will always be missed and we will never forget you. [inaudible]&#13;
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Here we go. It is back. The batteries were getting low. I could tell.&#13;
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JC (00:44:16):&#13;
Getting back to what I was saying. Their activism tends to have a negative connotation I think. When people think of activism, they think of... I think most people probably get a negative conception of what the word means. But I tend to agree with you. Activism is giving your all to something that you believe in. And I have an incredible tenacity about me to do that. If I believe in something, I do not care how bad somebody stomps on me or hurts me. And believe me, it has happened. If I still believe in something strongly, I will continue to pursue it with my all. That is the way I was raised. That is the way my brother was raised. That is why my brother did what he did. He heroically... He was an American hero. First of all, he had his honorable discharge. He had already seen combat duty during the Dominican Republic crisis. He served with the 82nd Airborne Division. 11th Special Forces. He had his honorable discharge. He had no reason to even go back into the military. But he too was raised with strong values and principles that one person can make a difference. They believe in something and they know it is right. Give it your all. And that is what he did. He reenlisted because he was a good medic. One of the best. And we have heard this over and over and over. They recently renamed the Fort Sam Houston Library in his memory. It is now the Keith A. Campbell Memorial Library. At the library dedication. After the dedication, we were all at dinner. Keith Sergeant from the 11th Special Forces shared a story about us that we had never heard. And that was when they were out on maneuvers. And Bob had walked into a tree branch. And if it had not been for Keith's medical treatment on site, Bob would have probably lost his eye. Now mind you, he was a teenager. I look at my own children and go, "Can my kids do that?" So, this kid was a phenomenal medic. He was not the kind of kid who liked going to school. Do not give him a clock and say, "What makes it... Do an essay on what makes it tick." He would be taking it apart and putting it back together to figure out what makes it tick. He was a real hands on person. And everything he learned, he learned the hard way and he did a dad gum good job. So, when he went off to Vietnam to save lives, he did do exactly that. And I feel very blessed that I have met two of the men that he died saving. How many people are that fortunate? To me those...&#13;
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Those people. Did he save them in Vietnam?&#13;
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Yes.&#13;
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SM  (00:47:20):&#13;
Wow.&#13;
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Yes. One gentleman. Keith's body laid on him for five hours. There was a firefight. A very bad firefight that came up overnight. They were actually in the planning stages for Operation Junction City. And lo and behold, they had to put everything on a screeching halt for Operation Junction City because here comes Operation Big Springs. You will find very little on Operation Big Springs. Very little. Which is very interesting. But all of the medics were down with this one company. And Keith and his buddy Ken were with another company and heard it over the radio. Keith left the safety of his perimeter to go. And as he started to go, Ken pulled him down and said, "Do not go. Whoever goes is not going to come back." And Keith pushed him down and said, "I am going. You have a wife and a baby." Now remember what he told me before he left Vietnam? One of the things? Men with wives and babies should not have to go. Ken literally told me that Keith save his life by doing that. Keith crawled through a hail of grenades and bullets. Now mind you, this is just three days after getting the Bronze Star for another battle. He was not stopped in 19 days. I do not know when that kid slept. I look at the geographic location of these different battles he was in, because I have been really doing a lot of research since (19)99. I cannot believe the adrenaline that kid must have had or how he ever got done what he did. I just do not know. I have talked to veterans that would tell me... It is funny. I do not even know why I was thinking about that this morning because I guess I was talking. These conversations I had with all these Gold Star mothers that is reflected. Brought a lot of stuff back to me. But I was thinking this morning about how these men did not sleep when they were over there. And one told me. All the monsoons and the rain they had, but they had ponchos. But he never took his poncho out because it would rattle and make noise. Think about a man over there who probably was a snorer. He would probably be afraid to have fallen asleep.&#13;
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Oh, yeah.&#13;
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So these men were in jungle with you name what. And he was just nonstop. But anyway.&#13;
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Keith picked up a rifle of another man that was killed along the way. Took that with him. Shot a sniper in the tree. I have the original article from The Evening.&#13;
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Okay.&#13;
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There used to be two newspapers in Washington DC. The Washington Post and the Evening Sun.&#13;
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SM  (00:50:18):&#13;
Star.&#13;
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JC (00:50:19):&#13;
Star. My mother always... Despite the hardships of being a single parent with four kids, she managed to subscribe to both of the newspapers. Because she always told us, "There are always going to be many sides to a story. You need to read them all." And you would. You would see the same story on the news. And you would read The Post and you would read The Star and you could hear three different things of the same thing. But anyway, I have the original newspaper article that said there was a sniper killed in the tree. One Viet Cong killed. Da-da-da-da. And then I knew that was the Viet Cong that Keith had killed. I had mixed emotions about that too because did not that young man have a mother?&#13;
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SM  (00:50:59):&#13;
Right.&#13;
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JC (00:51:00):&#13;
But anyway. Keith reached Eddie Taurus. Drug him to a nearby... Gave him enough medical aid to stop his bleeding and then drug him to a nearby tree where he literally... Because there were more snipers. The guys used to... Snipers used to tie themselves in the trees. He knew there was not enough coverage for the sniper in the tree. That up in the tree. In the tree where Keith had drug Eddie to for that tree to protect him. So Keith used his body for the other portion of Eddie to protect him. And in doing so, he got shot and he fell on Eddie. And it took them another five hours to pull the two of them out of there. Now I was blessed to meet Eddie back in (19)99. Flew out to California to meet him for the first time. Had a wonderful, warm... You can only imagine. Incredible meeting. But the whole weekend if he were facing me, he just clammed up. He could not look at me. He could not talk. And I did not get it. I could not understand it. It was the house. The owner of the home where we were staying who brought it to my attention. She said, "You do not get it. He sees your brother in your eyes."&#13;
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Oh, wow.&#13;
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So, I approached him and I said, "Eddie, we have come this far to find you after all these years. You do not even look at me." And he said, "Vicky's right, you do not get it. Your brother was on me for five hours. I see Campbell. I see you. I cannot look at you."&#13;
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Oh, wow.&#13;
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JC (00:52:42):&#13;
And even at the library dedication. As long as I was not looking at him. But I kind of got off the path a little bit, which I tend to do. But to answer your question about what I think about the people who protest and the activism and everything. I think the men and women who died have given them the freedoms to exercise their opinion. And though I may not always agree with them, we should have the opportunity to respectfully disagree. And I am thankful, very thankful, even though I disagree with some of them. Very thankful that they have that opportunity to have the freedom. There was an email exchange going around for a while. And I do not like all this tit for tat email stuff that people send you. And sometimes emails can... You can go to the office and you do emails all day long. I do not want to come home and do them at night. All this nonsensical stuff sometimes that comes around. Do not waste my time with it. If it is more than a paragraph, do not bother sending it to me. But anyway, I got this one email that was interesting to me about what's your favorite color? What is your greatest fear? What is this? And it was interesting to see family members and friends respond to some of these things. One of the questions on there. What is your greatest fear? It was very interesting to see what people said their greatest fear was. My greatest fear is to be sitting at a sidewalk cafe in America, having a cup of cappuccino, and having somebody drive by and throw a bomb. And that is something that has always been a fear of mine. See this is the difference. Even back in (19)67. Even though my mother. My mother was an extraordinary woman in the process of educating us. We understood even back then what communism meant. We understood that there were people on the other side of the world that did not have refrigerators. That if they wanted milk or eggs or perishable items, that they literally were standing in blocks long to get those things. And then they would have to consume them because they did not have a refrigerator to put it in. We knew that there were people who lived on the other side of the world that could not go into a church or a synagogue or whatever of their choice. We were raised with that. In other words, the values we were raised with were so strong. That our freedom and our democracy is such a gift. It was so instilled into us. That is why Keith did what he did. And that is why I continue to perpetuate his memory. Not only because he was an American hero, which he really was. A true hero. I did not even realize what a hero he was until (19)99. It is because I call it grief lifting its ugly veil. I related very much to this mother today who said she did not go out of the house. I went out of the house because I had to. And I was a sibling. I was not a mother. A Gold Star mother. I was merely a sibling. Then I talked to another mother this morning who told me her 42-year-old daughter will not talk about it. Her son that died. And I explained to her. I understand that. That is the way I was until (19)99. And I called it grief lifting its ugly veil. And I went through all my brother's memorabilia at that time. And then that is when I realized what he really had done. Oh my gosh, this man was a hero. And he would never want to tell you. He would be... He would be sitting here right now saying, "Judy, get off it." And the majority of the men that I know that went over there feel the same way. Point being, he did a job that they were sent to do and they did it with their all. And that is the same for the men and women today. And a lot of these kids today go to the workplace who... We had the draft back then. People are not understanding. These people that are over there today enlisted.&#13;
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SM  (00:57:21):&#13;
Right.&#13;
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What a sacrifice. They know what they are getting into. Maybe some of the National Guard did not know they were going to have five or six tours.&#13;
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SM  (00:57:31):&#13;
What you are really talking about here is... Considering the next question I have is about healing. One of the things. One of the most... Two or three of the most important questions I have been asking every individual in this interview process. We know that the Vietnam Memorial when it was built in (19)82. We know the purpose. To heal a generation as Janice Brooks' book talks about. But we knew it was about a healing. The Vietnam vets. Healing their families. Paying tribute...&#13;
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SM  (00:58:03):&#13;
The Vietnam vets healing their families, paying tribute to those who served people who gave the ultimate price, remembrance. And healing... I am asking a two-part question. How much do you feel that wall has done to heal the Vietnam veterans and the Vietnam generation, which includes the 70 million boomers? It includes the individuals who did not serve. It includes those who were for and against the war. We all know about the unbelievable divisions that took place at that time, as some people have said, historians have said, we came very close to a second civil war in with all the things that were happening with the cities up in flames and dealing with issues here at home. And then the war itself had really divided families, generation gap. Just your thoughts on healing, because you are talking about dealing with your brothers, your loss of your brother. So just your thoughts on the whole healing process where-&#13;
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JC (00:59:24):&#13;
The Vietnam veterans. The Vietnam Memorial Wall, you will have to forgive me for choking up, was the greatest gift that America gave the Vietnam veterans. The Vietnam veterans were treated in despicable manners. Spat on, had to change their uniform when they would come home. I know Vietnam veterans to this day that will not tell you they were a Vietnam veteran for fear of the way that they are going to be treated. That is just incomprehensible to me. Men who, good night, look what they ate, look what they slept. Look what they went through for 12, 13 months, whatever, had their buddies blown up right in front of them. Come home and get told horrible... I have not even had Gold Star mothers tell me that their son deserved to die because he was a baby killer. Now, first of all, were you there to see them kill a baby? I remember one veteran telling me, "I came home and I was on the elevator in the Pittsburgh airport and there was this little old lady who had an umbrella and she turned around and she started waving that umbrella at me. And it was one of those ones with a big point on the end of it and said, you baby killer, you a baby killer." And he said, "You know what, ma'am? I never killed a baby and I never hit an old lady. But if you do not get that umbrella out of my face and quit threatening me, I am going to do it." Where do people get off making these assumptions and treating people in such manners when they themselves were not even there? And this conception of all Vietnam veterans did drugs. They did not do drugs. I know Vietnam veterans today who are successful MDs, successful lawyers, professionals. Yes, it is like anything. You have some people who cannot pull themselves up from the bootstraps and move on with their lives for whatever reason, or try to milk the system and do not want to go to work every day. So, they try to get somebody to pay their way of the rest of their life. That is with anything. Look at car accidents. People do that with car accidents all the time, milk the system with that. But the majority of the Vietnam veterans I know are respected human beings who not only gave to our country then but are continuing to give back to our country today. And the Vietnam Memorial Wall is the only safe haven that they could have to go to where they were not judged, where they could pay their respects to those that they were with. And the thing that is the most painful I think for them though, I cannot walk in their shoes and say, what they feel. I can only imagine because I listen to a lot of them, talk about that survivor guilt. They go to the wall and they often think, look at the reflection and think, "Why is it not me on there? Why am I standing here and you're there?" And it was funny, I have always heard everybody talk about the wall with reflection, reflection, reflection. I am like, I do not get it. I do not see the wall in reflection when I go. And people look at me like, "Huh, how can you not see it?" It is because my go, Keith's name is way up there and I am looking up at a name so I am not looking straight ahead. So, I do not see a reflection. But then I have also heard the wall described as angels’ wings, which I think is beautiful. A beautiful description. So, I think the Vietnam Memorial Wall is the great, again, I reiterate that, the greatest gift our nation has ever given to not only our country for future generations, but specifically to the veterans themselves, were so mistreated. Now for healing for me personally, and again, it can only be spoken on a personal level because I do a lot of work with Gold Star Families because it is really where my heart is. Every time I hear of another family who has joined the Gold Star Family ranks, my heart shatters. It shatters because I know their lives have changed forever. I have been privy to the conversations from some Gold Star Families that I will not repeat the conversations, but I can say was certainty that people have no concept unless they are a Gold Star Family of how traumatic it is, and the worst thing we can do is forget. I remember a friend of mine years ago, her son was six years old and he died of Reye Syndrome, which is taking Aspirin and you have a fever and they do not do that anymore. And it was just up here around the corner at the card store. And I saw her in this card store. It was shortly after her son was killed.&#13;
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Died.&#13;
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Died, I am sorry. Died. And I [inaudible] my way in and out of the aisles to get my cards and get back out of there. And I come home. It's not a half hour later the phone rings. "Judy, it is Carol Lee. I know you saw me in the card store. Why did not you talk to me?" I said, "Carol Lee, I would tell you I did not know what to say to you." And she said, "You know what the worst thing you can do?" And it was a good thing she was a friend because only a friend can get away with this. She said, "The worst thing you can do is what you did. It is like Kevin never existed. Kevin was my only son. If you do not know what to say to me, simply say, I am praying for your broken heart, which I know you are, but do not act like I do not exist." So that is what I tell people. You see Gold Star Families because I think 90 percent of the time people do avoid people for the very reason that I did. You do not know what to say. You have mixed emotions because you think, "Oh, they are having a good day. If I say something, it is going to make them feel bad." But what people do not understand is we never forget anyway. So, if we are having a good day and you think you are going to bring us down by bringing it up, I got news for you. We will never forget. We were blessed to recently be at our daughter's for the birth of our first grandson. Even my husband does not know this. I am holding this beautiful baby to my breath and loving him and praying he may never see more. That he may grow up in a country of freedom and that he will someday learn through going through the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Center the sacrifices made for him to have the life that he hopefully have. Okay? And then my next breath was, "Keith, why aren't you here to hold him? Why are not you here?" We never forget holidays and Christmas. There is always in our mind's eye, in our heart and at place at that table always. And there always will be. And this is for all of these families. And I would like to encourage people to realize that it's okay to say something because when I talk about this Gold Star Mother today, the only thing she says she does is she goes out in her garden and plays with her flowers and that is it. She does not go any... She send me the invitation again about the luncheon. I lost it. I do want to come. And then she said this to me, "I do not go anywhere by myself." And I said, "Well how is your husband with all of this?" "My husband does not talk about it." And see, this is why it shatters me when I hear about another Gold Star Family, because I know this. It divides families. They not only lose their loved one, but it shatters relationships in walls of the family unit itself. Because the biggest mistake we all make when we lose somebody we love, no matter what the circumstances is. I have done hospice work in the past and this is what I will tell the hospice people, the families. Grieve together. We do not do that. Grief has so many facets to it. You have guilt. You have, why me? Shock. You have all these different emotions with it and you stay so... I remember vividly when Keith died. I mean, so angry with my mother for years over it. I remember laying on the living room sofa, we used to have a picture over the fireplace. It was of a seascape and had a warm wood frame to it and a picture light on it. And that was like the nightlight because our house was the revolving door. Everybody came from campus and back then, you did not have to lock your doors. We never did lock our doors. It was always the revolving door. You never knew when Keith was coming home. You never knew when anybody was coming in the room. But after Keith died, I remember laying on the sofa screaming at the top of my lungs. Now it was a small house, much smaller than this. You cannot tell me my mother did not hear me screaming. Never came downstairs. No, we never grieved together. My sister never grieved together. My sister still has not gotten over it. I have not gotten it over yet. I remember Nancy Reagan recently saying on an interview about President Reagan's death, of course things must be getting better. And she looked right at the reporter and said, "Actually it gets worse." She is absolutely correct. The only thing time does is help with controlling your physical outside emotions. In other words, helping you to get a grip and not be a blubbering idiot in front of people. That is the only thing time does. Healing will never happen in the respect. Totally. Because a piece of you has been taken out and cut out. I had a double mastectomy almost 15 years ago. And I remember going to a counselor about it and before it happened, because that was part of the protocol I was in. I went through Hopkins and they're really top-notch. And that was part of the protocol, you had to do that. This breast cancer surveillance unit program. I went through and I went to the counselor and she said, "Well, I will be perfectly honest with you, I do not know..." Kudos to her because she was honest. She said, "I do not know what to tell you what you are going to expect." She said, "But I do know that from what you told me about your brother, you have experienced loss in your life. And so, I am here to tell you, you are probably going to experience the same thing as you did in the loss of your brother. Why me? Guilt, was it something I ate? Was it where I lived? Disbelief, shock. So that is what happens." And she was absolutely correct. You were telling me about a family member in your life having a health challenge and to a certain level, they too will experience in that way. It is a normal chain of events for all people. And like I said earlier, you do not forget the best things that have ever happened to you in your life. Do not anybody tell me to forget the worst because I cannot. But it is my obligation and responsibility to go about living my life in a positive way so it does not demean and bring other people down. I think if enough of us can do good things by educating, and this is my goal in life, educate every American that they know what a Gold Star is. A Blue Star, a Silver Star. They do not know. Even people in the military do not know.&#13;
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See, when I met you in Washington, I mentioned to you and the person who was the national director of the Gold Star Mothers. Yeah. I think it would be fantastic to have a program at a university where Gold Star mothers came in and spoke.&#13;
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Absolutely.&#13;
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Because you never see that. And obviously we are in another war now, but the mothers who have lost... And there is also, I think it is Mrs. Zaalberg, you may have seen it on the national news. She lost her son in Iraq last year. She goes to the Arlington every day and sits in front of the stone in Section 60. Now she is the only one that does it. Everybody comes every day. And she was on the national news because here it is, the middle of the winter, it is almost like a blizzard out there. And she is sitting in front of... They let her in even in days when they are closed, because she has to be in with her son. That might be a good person to link up with. I forget what channel, I think it was Zaalberg. I have been to Section 60 twice, just there last week, I think her last name was Zaalberg. But obviously to be there every day, 365 days a year is unbelievable.&#13;
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That is unbelievable.&#13;
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And she is the only one. Everybody else comes there. But I went into the Section 60 there and I saw it is very sad.&#13;
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Oh, gosh.&#13;
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Again, the healing for you, the healing for the vets, but how about the nation? The nation was torn apart with the war and a lot of things.&#13;
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Nobody wants to be torn.&#13;
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Do you think we are still divided from that era? Do you think you still have the divisions from that era based on-&#13;
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I do, but I do not think to the degree that we did then. If you look back then on the news reports and you would see all the protestors, you would see mobs and mobs and mobs of them. I just saw a news clip the other day after Lady Bird Johnson was killed with President Johnson standing in the White House. And you could hear in the background all the protestors and the things they were saying to you, "How does it feel to let another family lose a son?" You could hear that because that is how close the sidewalk. But you do not see that protesting on the news like you did back in the (19)60s. So, to answer your question, yes, but not to the same degree.&#13;
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SM  (01:15:34):&#13;
I have always had the thought that, and like your opinion on this too, that those individuals who were in the anti-war movement, who were, whether they be in college or not in college or whatever, that when they bring their kids now and their grandchildren to the wall... But all kids say, "Dad or mom, what did you do during that time?" And then of course the 85 percent who supposedly never was involved in the anti-war or any activism or served, that whole generation, you are-&#13;
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I would like to know what they say to their kids as they come to the wall.&#13;
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SM  (01:16:19):&#13;
I think that if you have ever sat down in Janice [inaudible], I think this is a story that really has not been discussed.&#13;
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I think you are right.&#13;
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Because I think the wall is become... To me, it is such a symbol to everything. It is about healing.&#13;
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It is.&#13;
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SM  (01:16:39):&#13;
And it is about caring for those who gave their lives. There's no room for politics here. It is a time to reflect. It is a time to think. And it is also a time to reevaluate what you did when you were young. And I think that wall does that to every boomer.&#13;
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Yeah. That is-&#13;
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No matter who they were or where they were at that time. And there is millions of stories, oral histories that need to be told on this.&#13;
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I think you are right.&#13;
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And hopefully I am going to be part of it because I got to devote the rest of my life to a lot of these things when I leave higher education. The wall, I go down there on my own a lot. I was just down there last week and I go to the wall and there's no ceremonies happening. I just sit there on the bench and reflect.&#13;
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See, that is my dream to go in the middle of the night. I have this punch list of things I want to do before I die. One was go skydiving, I did do that. That was the best thing I ever did.&#13;
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SM  (01:17:41):&#13;
Wow.&#13;
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That was awesome. One is to ride into Washington DC in the middle of the night on a Harley. And I do not even own a Harley, I did not even have a motorcycle license and go to the wall at night when nobody was around. Because when you go during the day, there is all these people there and you just do not feel like... I worry too much about what other people think. You see some kid who is like 12, 13 walking down towards you. You do not want to be standing there, blubbering idiot. And my husband will say, "Well, why do you care? If you want to blubber, blubber?" And sometimes you cannot control it. But I want to be there in the middle of the night. Just by myself.&#13;
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SM  (01:18:26):&#13;
I have been there around 12 midnight. But the one thing about they say about the area, it is not safe because there has been some murders at the Lincoln Memorial and that is why they actually closed off the back area there. Because two years ago there were two murders. As you look at Arlington, people had wandered around the back and then they were murdered there. So, I cannot believe... There should be a lot more security there. I think the security should be in that whole area should be increased so people cannot-&#13;
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JC (01:19:02):&#13;
Oh, I remember when 9/11 happened. Of course, it's like President Kennedy's death. We all know where we were and what we were doing. But I remember when that one plane was not quite accounted for. I remember vividly walking into the lady's room, going into the stall and just praying with all my strengths. Dear God, do not let them destroy [inaudible]. I was so afraid of that.&#13;
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SM  (01:19:31):&#13;
One thing about the wall that I now know is that if anything ever did happen to the wall, they have backups for the wall. They are made already because those are not the originals. So, some of the originals, I think there is at least one or two of them taken out already. They wear out. That is why they do not allow people to walk on top anymore. Nothing will ever happen to that wall. Because they know in time that certain sections will have to be replaced. The names will all be on there, it will just be replaced. It is there forever.&#13;
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JC (01:20:11):&#13;
Good.&#13;
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SM  (01:20:12):&#13;
Just like the World War II memorials. So, they are there forever. They have backup plans. And that is the first thing I ask because that is why they stopped the people walking because in the early years-&#13;
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JC (01:20:21):&#13;
Personal etchings.&#13;
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SM  (01:20:23):&#13;
Yeah. Do you want to take a break here or I got a-&#13;
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JC (01:20:29):&#13;
Oh no, I am fine. If you are fine.&#13;
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SM  (01:20:30):&#13;
I take a... Maybe, well-&#13;
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JC (01:20:33):&#13;
Why do not you take a break? Because you are the one that is in there.&#13;
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SM  (01:20:35):&#13;
Oh, this has been fascinating because it allows you to be able to share your thoughts. And certainly, before I leave, I do not know if you have a picture of your brother, picture of you with your brother, because that is very important. And certainly, when I go down to the Vietnam memorial-&#13;
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JC (01:20:52):&#13;
Yeah. He lives this with me.&#13;
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SM  (01:20:57):&#13;
I guess about the healing. This business about healing, just your thoughts, do you think that many members of the generation are having healing problems that were not veterans?&#13;
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JC (01:21:10):&#13;
Yeah, and I think I am thinking about it more after what you just said. I bet there is a lot of guilt from some of those people that protested. I bet they never envisioned the Vietnam Memorial Wall being the most visited memorial in Washington DC. And I would be very interested in going back and talking to some of them myself to see how they are raising their kids. Oh, yeah. I think there's guilt with... We all have guilt for whatever reason.&#13;
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SM  (01:21:41):&#13;
I have always thought, and I have had this from some of the people, do you like them or not that when you think of the people who served, and when you think of the people who protested, who were sincere in their protests, and then you think of the 85 percent of the 70 million that did nothing. How are those 85 thinking? Because those people that protested the war may not change one bit. You do not treat a veteran poorly, but they will be very solid in their beliefs against the war. But the question I have is, I am a little child with a father or mother. Mom and dad. What did you do? Did you serve or did you protest?&#13;
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JC (01:22:32):&#13;
I remember my mother worked at the Pentagon when Keith was killed. And she would periodically, not all the time, but sometimes on her way to work, stop at Keith's grave before coming to work. And she went to Keith's grave, now I remember I grew up in Arlington. So that whole section where Keith was buried was nothing but a grassy field when I was a kid. I watched them turn that grassy field into... When Keith was buried, those green berets were in mud up to their knees. Precision. Because it was not grassed over and they were all the temporary markers.&#13;
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SM  (01:23:13):&#13;
Right.&#13;
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JC (01:23:14):&#13;
But my mother came to work and she saw this tarp laying over Keith's grave, and she thought, "Well, they are digging more graves and everything." She said, "Maybe one of the workers left this tarp." She walked over and she kind of pushed it and there was somebody in it under, it was a kid. He was sleeping.&#13;
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SM  (01:23:35):&#13;
Oh my gosh.&#13;
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JC (01:23:36):&#13;
My mother said, "What are you doing?" And he said, "I am here as a war protestor and I needed a place to sleep." And she said, "Do you know where you're sleeping? You are in a national cemetery. You are on my son's body."&#13;
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SM  (01:23:52):&#13;
Oh my gosh, that is terrible.&#13;
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JC (01:23:54):&#13;
Then he told my mother that he was given $25. He was up from New England someplace. He was paid $25 to get on a bus and come to Washington to protest. These kids were paid money to come into Washington.&#13;
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SM  (01:24:13):&#13;
They did not really care?&#13;
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JC (01:24:14):&#13;
Did not even know what they were doing.&#13;
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SM  (01:24:16):&#13;
Unbelievable. Can I use your restroom?&#13;
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JC (01:24:19):&#13;
Oh, absolutely.&#13;
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SM  (01:24:25):&#13;
Here we go. Next question is dealing with the generation gap. There was a tremendous generation gap for the boomers because there was a lot of parents were split from kids during that era. And there does not seem to be today... I work with college students though there seems to be a real closeness between parent and child today because there's so involved in their son or daughter's education. Could you comment your thoughts on the generation gap that happened in the (19)60s and (19)70s? Did you see it? Did you sense it? And you have already said that your family was pretty close in the values and maybe your family-&#13;
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JC (01:25:17):&#13;
Well, my parents were divorced too, and so I did not know my dad, so in that sense. And I would say the majority of my friends, gosh, I think [inaudible] of my friend's parents, if I remember correctly, were married. Phil, my boyfriend, he was killed in Vietnam. His parents were divorced, but they were cordial to one another. His dad lived in Taiwan most of that time. His mother lived in Arlington. But I do not really see that.&#13;
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SM  (01:25:50):&#13;
Because the generation gap, there is a Life magazine cover, which showed a young boy. I have it in my office at work and the whole magazine is all about the generation gap.&#13;
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JC (01:25:57):&#13;
Well, I have remember people talking about that. Yeah.&#13;
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SM  (01:26:04):&#13;
Do you sense that today's families are closer than maybe they were in the-&#13;
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JC (01:26:15):&#13;
I think they are striving for that now. I think they got along the way to go. But I look at people that I know who have kids in college, and you're right. When they are in college, all the paperwork you got to fill out and all that. I do not know. I do not-&#13;
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SM  (01:26:38):&#13;
What do you think will be the, as time goes on, what will be the legacy of the boomer generation?&#13;
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JC (01:26:48):&#13;
Everybody is going to think of Vietnam. I really do. Vietnam will be a big issue, but hopefully it will be a learning experience.&#13;
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SM  (01:27:02):&#13;
The issue of trust is something that.&#13;
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SM  (01:27:03):&#13;
The issue of trust is something that... I will use my myself as an example. When I think of, when growing up of... When I was very young, I had a minister. My grandfather was a minister, and we would go to church every Sunday as a little boy, and I looked up to my minister. I looked up to my teacher. I looked up to people in authority. I looked up to even President Eisenhower, even though I was a little boy, and John Kennedy. Heck, I met John Kennedy when I was a little boy at Hyde Park one Sunday. Something happened in that era of... With the Gulf of Tonkin, if you read about that, was that contrived, the body counts? Then we ended up in Watergate. Then you had presidents like Nixon with the Enemies List, and there is a lack of trust, and I think it affected a lot of people in the boomer generation. Could you comment on whether trust, how did that whole issue, how important trust is with you as a member of the boomer generation, and your peers, your thoughts on the whole issue of trust and trust in leaders?&#13;
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JC (01:28:20):&#13;
I think trust is something that has to be earned, and I think people have lost a lot of trust along the way for some of the very issues that you have mentioned. I mean, you would think that your leader that you trusted to run the country or whatever would do it in an honorable way. I mean, you just look at Enron and all of that. I mean, you have major individuals who are overseeing corporations, who have stripped people of their future. Their retirement's gone, and I think people have lost a lot of trust in a lot of people, and I think trust is something that is really in a bad way right now.&#13;
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SM  (01:29:16):&#13;
Do you blame the boomer parents for maybe their kids not trusting, or do kids trust today? What effect does this lack of trust have on the kids?&#13;
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JC (01:29:30):&#13;
I think the effect it has on people, people pretty much do their own thing anymore. They feel like that they do not... That is why I do not think they look up to leadership with respect anymore because they just feel like... Oh, I mean, I look at a recent incident that was in the news, when the iPhone came out here. Here, you have a mayor, who's mayor of a city that people are dying constantly on the streets, and he is sitting in a lawn chair behind an iPod. When you trust that that leader would be working to make sure people are... I mean, send an assistant to sit in the lawn chair. I think it's not only trust, it is just there is kind of that sense of accountability is gone, and respect, but no wonder. I mean, look at some of the things that you see.&#13;
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SM  (01:30:25):&#13;
As a young person, and when your brother passed away, did you put any blame on President Johnson and President Nixon, depending on the year?&#13;
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JC (01:30:37):&#13;
Actually, maybe I was one of those rare birds from the (19)60s. I actually did not get into that accounting of blame. I really did not. I do not think any human being would have a pulse if they did not feel the pain and the loss for each and every casualty that comes across their desk. I look at President Johnson. I look at President Bush. I know we have a letter from President Johnson. Maybe it was just a form letter, who knows? I would have to go back and look at it again, but probably was. But I am sure when he had that stack of letters on his desk, and if President Bush still does that today, if that is still done, they still have to be thinking when they are stroking that pen, and it has to affect them in some way. It truly does. I never did blame Nixon and Johnson. I read books, and McNamara and all of them, and again, there were issues that happened that I am not pleased with, but I really... No, I do not. If it had not been Vietnam, it would have been perhaps another conflict. Nobody wants war, but it's inevitable. I went through a phase in my life where I was almost that generation of peace, peace, peace, but then I realized that that was an immaturity. It is naive to think we're never going to have war. I mean, just look how history repeats itself. Of course, I do not want war. Nobody does, but unfortunately it happens. The thing that scares me is the fact with the technology we have, the weapons get more powerful.&#13;
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SM  (01:32:50):&#13;
I have come to the section now where I am just going to read some names from that little section toward the end where you... Just quick responses, they do not have to be any in-depth, just your initial, quick response on your thoughts on these individuals.&#13;
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JC (01:33:03):&#13;
There is one that I am already getting a little blood pressure up.&#13;
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SM  (01:33:06):&#13;
Okay-okay. Yeah, Tom Hayden.&#13;
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JC (01:33:12):&#13;
No comment.&#13;
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SM  (01:33:14):&#13;
Jane Fonda.&#13;
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JC (01:33:16):&#13;
I do have strong feelings about Jane Fonda, only in the regard that I have seen how Vietnam veterans have responded to her. I was not there. I did not see her palm pass what has been rumored that she passed. I have heard her say in recent years that she was a born-again Christian, but her definition of born-again Christian must be a little bit different than mine because I recently saw her on David Letterman, and that was not my depiction of what a born-again Christian is. I do truly feel if Jane Fonda really is sorry for the wounds that have been created between her and Vietnam veterans, if she truly is repenting of that, that she should spend some time going to different veterans' organizations and trying to have healing before any more veterans pass, and even before she passes because I think there is a strong bitterness there that it would be nice to see healed. I do not know if it will ever happen though.&#13;
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SM  (01:34:38):&#13;
Robert McNamara.&#13;
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JC (01:34:45):&#13;
Had a lot of power.&#13;
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SM  (01:34:51):&#13;
Does it upset you that he knew in (19)67, as he states in his book, In Retrospect, that we should have left Vietnam, that it was a losing war, yet he did nothing to do it, and then he left. That is getting into politics again.&#13;
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JC (01:35:11):&#13;
I know, but you know what? In the very end of things... You were talking earlier about somebody going to their grave not liking somebody. In the very end, all of these people who have an accountability, I believe that, [inaudible] threefold.&#13;
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SM  (01:35:29):&#13;
How about Lyndon Johnson? Again, just quick comments on him. Bobby Kennedy?&#13;
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JC (01:35:43):&#13;
I thought he was very energetic and had potential there.&#13;
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SM  (01:35:49):&#13;
Eugene McCarthy.&#13;
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JC (01:35:54):&#13;
Again, powerful.&#13;
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SM  (01:35:58):&#13;
How about John Kennedy?&#13;
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JC (01:36:02):&#13;
I thought he was very powerful. When you hear about the Camelot era and all of that, I think a lot of that was just... There was a lot of grace during that era, a lot of grace and respect because I too remember growing up, and it is Mr. President, Mr. President. You hear the youth today talk about Bill, Billy Boy, and that what's-its-name guy in Texas, who cannot even speak a complete sentence. I mean, there is no respect. Even if you do not like the person, even if you do not like any of these names of these people that you are talking about, to me, there should be a respect for the office.&#13;
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SM  (01:36:51):&#13;
Is this working? Yes, it is. All right.&#13;
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JC (01:36:55):&#13;
When you are naming all of these names and everything, as I said, and I am not sure if it was on the tape or not, I really think the offices are offices that need to be respected, and even if I do not agree with some of the things that they do, I still need to... As an American, I think it is my obligation. I need to respect the office, and if I have a negative feeling or negative comment about somebody, I am not doing the office any service by expressing that negative attitude. And I think it tends to tear down when we do that because, as I said earlier, I remember it was the president, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and now it is all these anecdotes, these flippant names about Billy and the Texan, and that is disrespectful, to me, and I do not want to be a part of that.&#13;
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SM  (01:38:02):&#13;
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.&#13;
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JC (01:38:05):&#13;
I think Dr. Martin Luther King really did bring to the forefront that there was a definite civil, I mean, a civil rights issue between Blacks and whites. I do believe strongly, though, also that sometimes it has taken to the extreme, and people take advantage of it. I think it is very, very wrong that people talk about people in a Black-white issue, anyway. I think people should be spoken of as an individual, period. Why does it matter if somebody is white or Black? If you are going to do that, we are going to have Black history month, why do not we have Caucasian history month? I mean, where do you draw the line?&#13;
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SM  (01:38:58):&#13;
How about Malcolm X?&#13;
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JC (01:39:10):&#13;
There is a concern about, me with certain individuals, that their power to project negative thinking really does impact people. That is why it is that much more our responsibility and duty to project the positive.&#13;
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SM  (01:39:33):&#13;
Gets into the next group, which is the Black Power people like Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and Angela Davis.&#13;
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JC (01:39:40):&#13;
And part of it... Yeah. You talk about some of those people, they get radical, and they get extreme, and there is this... To me, if anybody has to scream all the time to get a point across, there is something wrong with that. I just do not like it when there is all that screaming. Do not know how to word that.&#13;
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SM  (01:40:03):&#13;
Were you fearful of the Black Power movement, or did that affect you in any way?&#13;
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JC (01:40:10):&#13;
Well, I remember a visit, being at National Airport. It was a wedding, and it was right in the heart of all the clashes that were going on. We were in Roslyn. First, we went to National Airport, and we were expecting people into the plane, and then I had a friend of mine put his briefcase down, and he told me, "Put that briefcase by you, and do not let it out of your sight for a moment." So, I actually straddled it between my legs because he was so adamant about, "Do not let go of this." It was heavy, so I did not want to hold it. Then when he came back and we went to Roslyn to drop the people off at the hotel, I said, "What was in that suitcase?" He said, "Guns." Of course, you could not do that today. We were right in the midst of all the shootings and everything that was going on when Martin Luther King was killed, and I remember all of that. I would just like to express to these people, where does all this hatred... I think sometimes people take... I started to tell you earlier that I think sometimes the Black-white issue is taken to the extreme. Like anything, people try to milk it, take advantage. I mean, where are all these white people who are never mentioned that never grew up with this Black-white issue? I mean, people make it sound like everybody made the Blacks sit on the back of the bus. Well, they only did back then. Well, we do not do it anymore. That was wrong, and so Martin Luther King made a difference there. He really did.&#13;
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SM  (01:41:50):&#13;
How about Dr. Benjamin Spock?&#13;
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JC (01:41:53):&#13;
I laugh when I hear about Dr. Benjamin Spock because I think my kids were raised okay. He was raised on their book, but you do not hear about him anymore, do you? I did not get involved into his politics. I just only read about him with raising babies.&#13;
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SM  (01:42:07):&#13;
He died in (19)98. He died the same week my mom died, and I remember being with my mom and showing her a magazine where he had passed away. And it was interesting because the week my mom died, he died before my mom died, and Frank Sinatra died two or three days later, all in 1998. So, it is hard to believe it has been that long.&#13;
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JC (01:42:32):&#13;
It sure is.&#13;
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SM  (01:42:34):&#13;
How about the Berrigan Brothers? Did you know anything about Daniel and Philip Berrigan?&#13;
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JC (01:42:37):&#13;
No, I did not.&#13;
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SM  (01:42:38):&#13;
The Catholic priests who were... We have had them on our campus, and one just passed away. How about Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, the yippies?&#13;
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JC (01:42:48):&#13;
Yeah, they were yippies, all right. Again, they probably got their little groupies together for all their bus trips and everything, but do you ever hear about them anymore? Here today, gone tomorrow.&#13;
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SM  (01:42:59):&#13;
Yeah, though they both passed away. Ironic that Jerry Rubin died illegally crossing the street.&#13;
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JC (01:43:09):&#13;
Really?&#13;
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SM  (01:43:09):&#13;
Yeah. That was in Los Angeles. He had actually become very conservative and part of the establishment, so to speak. Yeah.&#13;
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JC (01:43:15):&#13;
Well, I think a part of that, that whole thing was just a matter of maturity, this rebellious way. I mean, all kids go through that, even today.&#13;
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SM  (01:43:30):&#13;
Well, they were way out. I saw Jerry Rubin when I was in college, and he came to speak. The place was packed. He was a great speaker. Daniel-&#13;
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JC (01:43:39):&#13;
Oh, that is scary.&#13;
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SM  (01:43:41):&#13;
Yeah. Obviously, great speakers can really inspire. How about Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers?&#13;
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JC (01:43:48):&#13;
Oh, yeah. Yeah.&#13;
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SM  (01:43:51):&#13;
Or Ralph Nader?&#13;
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JC (01:43:54):&#13;
Well, Ralph Nader actually helped me unload a car, so I cannot say too many bad things about him.&#13;
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SM  (01:44:00):&#13;
Oh, he did?&#13;
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JC (01:44:01):&#13;
We had a car that got off the assembly line without any inspection. It was an Omni, and I remember turning the corner, and in fact, my son was in an infant seat, and the car door flew open. And I remember driving the car when my father-in-law was here and thinking, "Oh, it just handles all the bumps so well," only to find out it did not have the right shocks and everything. And his office literally helped me unload that car without having to pay extra.&#13;
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SM  (01:44:32):&#13;
Excellent. Yeah, he wrote a book on that around the (19)70s. How about Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon?&#13;
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JC (01:44:44):&#13;
Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon. Well, I see Richard like this. I remember my brother saying he wanted to be 21, so he could vote. So, when I think of Richard Nixon, I think of the fact that my brother never got to be old enough to vote.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:00):&#13;
Oh. Well, what year did your brother die?&#13;
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JC (01:45:03):&#13;
(19)67.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:03):&#13;
Yeah, (19)68 was the first election that he could have. Yeah.&#13;
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JC (01:45:14):&#13;
Damn that liar.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:16):&#13;
How about Muhammad Ali? Because he is very well known in terms of as an athlete, but he was against the war.&#13;
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JC (01:45:23):&#13;
Yeah. Again, I am glad that he had the right to express his feelings, with democracy, about his feeling against the war. I am glad people afforded him that opportunity.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:37):&#13;
Yeah. Right here I am going... Spiro Agnew, I have to mention that name.&#13;
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JC (01:45:40):&#13;
Oh, yeah. I remember Spiro Agnew.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:41):&#13;
Yeah. I do not know what you think about good old Spiro.&#13;
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JC (01:45:43):&#13;
Spiro.&#13;
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SM  (01:45:49):&#13;
And the Watergate Committee, any thoughts on Watergate and that whole...&#13;
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JC (01:45:55):&#13;
Again, it helped people to lose trust, which is a sad commentary.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:05):&#13;
Now, these are just some terms from the period, and just quick responses. Woodstock.&#13;
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JC (01:46:13):&#13;
Hippies.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:13):&#13;
Communes.&#13;
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JC (01:46:13):&#13;
Love.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:21):&#13;
Black Power.&#13;
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JC (01:46:23):&#13;
Fist up in the air.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:26):&#13;
SDS.&#13;
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JC (01:46:28):&#13;
Yes, was that a drug?&#13;
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SM  (01:46:29):&#13;
No, Students for a Democratic Society.&#13;
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JC (01:46:33):&#13;
Oh-oh, yes. Yes-yes.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:35):&#13;
Started by Tom Hayden.&#13;
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JC (01:46:37):&#13;
Oh, that is right. That is right. Brainwashed.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:42):&#13;
The Weathermen. They were the ones that blew up buildings and stuff.&#13;
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JC (01:46:50):&#13;
Oh, that. Oh, yeah.&#13;
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SM  (01:46:52):&#13;
They were a take-off of the SDS group, and that is how it died. How about the word the counterculture? How about, let us see, Chicago 8?&#13;
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JC (01:47:09):&#13;
Where is all this today? Hopefully, you do not hear about it.&#13;
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SM  (01:47:13):&#13;
Remember the Chicago 8 trial, the (19)68 convention? Kent State.&#13;
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JC (01:47:18):&#13;
Yeah, yeah. I had a girlfriend whose sister was there, who knew that [inaudible] one.&#13;
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SM  (01:47:24):&#13;
Kent State and Jackson State. Any thoughts on Kent State?&#13;
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JC (01:47:30):&#13;
I just remember my girlfriend's sister being there. It was not her.&#13;
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SM  (01:47:37):&#13;
How about the Beatles?&#13;
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JC (01:47:39):&#13;
Never did like them.&#13;
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SM  (01:47:40):&#13;
Never did, huh? What about the music of the (19)60s, Jimi Hendricks, Janis Joplin?&#13;
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JC (01:47:46):&#13;
I never liked-&#13;
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SM  (01:47:46):&#13;
Motown, the music.&#13;
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JC (01:47:49):&#13;
I used to always play back my brother's favorites. I liked Buddy Holly and Ricky Nelson. I always thought the Beatles were too twangy, (singing). I truly never understood the big hype for the Beatles.&#13;
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SM  (01:48:07):&#13;
How about the Rolling Stones and all those groups?&#13;
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JC (01:48:13):&#13;
Very energetic.&#13;
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SM  (01:48:17):&#13;
Let us see, the Missile Crisis of (19)62. Where were you when the Missile Crisis happened?&#13;
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JC (01:48:31):&#13;
Oh my gosh, I was a kid. I remember the Bay of Pigs. We were sitting around the dining room table talking about that to the wee hours.&#13;
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SM  (01:48:38):&#13;
How about the astronauts, (19)69, walking on the moon?&#13;
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JC (01:48:45):&#13;
Oh, I remember that. That was my first... I thought that was phenomenal.&#13;
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SM  (01:48:47):&#13;
Still remember the astronauts?&#13;
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JC (01:48:49):&#13;
Glenn?&#13;
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SM  (01:48:51):&#13;
Well, the three that were on that mission.&#13;
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JC (01:48:54):&#13;
I do not remember all three names. No.&#13;
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SM  (01:48:58):&#13;
That is why we do these trivia questions.&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:49:00):&#13;
Oh, my husband... You're missing it, Richard. This is your best part. He would have answers to all of this.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:49:07):&#13;
I guess that is about it. I do not have any other questions to ask. I guess the one thing I want to ask you is, you have mentioned the loss of your brother as obviously the event that has touched you the most. But is there another event not linked to your brother or to your family that you remember more than any other that had an effect on you, a specific event during your youth?&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:49:47):&#13;
Our housekeeper passing away, she was very dear to us. She was like my grandmother. Actually, I was not really a youth. I was married then. Wait a minute. Let me see if I can... Now when you are saying an event, what kind of an event?&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:50:04):&#13;
Like the assassination of John F Kennedy or something that really...&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:50:09):&#13;
That really rocked my world back then. I would say that, Kennedy. That was one of those moments in time that you can remember exactly where you were, who was with you, what you were doing. Oh yeah, I can remember that.&#13;
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SM  (01:50:26):&#13;
Can you tell me what...&#13;
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JC (01:50:27):&#13;
I was in history class when they came over the loudspeaker. It was the end of the day, and I remember walking home with the same group of friends that I would walk home with, and we were all talking about it.&#13;
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SM  (01:50:38):&#13;
Were you around your family like most people were that weekend? Because he died on a Friday.&#13;
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JC (01:50:44):&#13;
He did die on a Friday, yes. I walked home, and the whole family was home.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:50:54):&#13;
It was an unbelievable time.&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:50:55):&#13;
It was. It really was. And it was a disbelief, I mean, to come home and turn on the TV and see it over and over and over, replaying that, and Oswald coming through.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:51:02):&#13;
Were you one of those individuals that happened to be seeing Oswald live when he was actually shot?&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:51:09):&#13;
No.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:51:09):&#13;
I was. I saw him live, right when the shooting happened. I still remember, Jack Perkins was the announcer for NBC at the time. Yeah. Are there any final thoughts that you would like to mention, that maybe that you thought I was going to ask that I did not ask regarding...&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:51:33):&#13;
Well, fortunately, I had copied your questions beforehand, and that was good. I mean, I do regret that I did not go back and look at some of these names, really. I mean, I really did not pay attention to that. I saw them on here, but I did not even look at it, really.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:51:47):&#13;
Yeah. Some people have, during the interview, that-&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:51:52):&#13;
Oh, Gloria Steinem.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:51:54):&#13;
Oh, yeah, the women's movement. Some of them have responded in... The gentleman yesterday that I interviewed, he was fantastic. He could not, he said, "Steve, when you mention a name, I cannot just give a quick two-second response." Nixon...&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:52:12):&#13;
Barry Goldwater.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:52:13):&#13;
Yeah. Well, yeah. He talked about Barry Goldwater, but he said Nixon was... Nixon has gotten an unbelievable response from just about everybody because of the fact that when you look at the Vietnam Memorial, and you see the fact that when he came in at (19)68, he had a plan to change the war and bring the troops home. Over 29,000 people died after he became president. So that is quite a... And then there is all kinds of things being written about the peace talks, of Paris, and what was really going on there, and that if he really did have a plan that-&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:52:57):&#13;
Why did not he enact it?&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:52:58):&#13;
... it would not have been in time for your brother, but it would have been in time for 29,000 others.&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:53:02):&#13;
That is a lot of people.&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:53:06):&#13;
Yeah, because the people were dying through [inaudible]-&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:53:07):&#13;
What is your feeling on now, on Iraq?&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:53:10):&#13;
My feeling on Iraq? I think it's another Vietnam, and that is the gentleman I spoke to yesterday, but you cannot even bring up... Early on, I felt it was the same. And because we are part of the boomer generation that remembers Vietnam, to even bring the name Vietnam or quagmire up in a discussion is... You just could not do it.&#13;
&#13;
JC (01:53:37):&#13;
But have we learned anything from Vietnam? I mean, if this is another Vietnam, did we learn anything from that?&#13;
&#13;
SM  (01:53:45):&#13;
See, I am going to end right here, and I am going to turn it off. Thank you very much.&#13;
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JC (01:53:51):&#13;
Thank you.&#13;
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D E P A R T M E N T

2007­2008 C H A M B E R  S E R I E S

“ T H E  ORIENT EXPRESS”
T I M O T H Y  PERRY, C L A R I N E T

M ARGARET  REITZ, P IANO
Assisted by

Janey Cho i, Violin
Stephen Stalker, Violoncello
Ivy Gaibel, Mezzo­So prano

Saturday Evening at 8:00
September 8, 2007
A nderson Cent er Chamber Hall

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PROGRAM
Solo de Concours (1899)  .  .  .  . .  . 

.  .+ .  .  André Messager
(1853­1929)

Aria: ‘Parto, ma tu ben m io’ (Clemenza di Tito). .  .  .  W.A. Mozart

(1 756­1 7 91 )

Ivy Gaibel, Mezzo­Soprano

Adagio from Violin Concerto.  .  .  .  .  .  .J. Brahms, arr. Langenus

(1833­1897)

Contrasts for Violin, Clarinet and P ia no   .  .  . .  .  .  .  Bela Bartok
I. Verbunkos
II. Piheno
111. Sebes

(1881­ 1945)

Janey C hoi, Violin

WINTERMISSIO N®3
Marko Tajcevic

Seven Balkan Da nces  .  .  . 
I Con moto
II. Rustico

IV Sostenuto e cantabile
V. Allegro ritmico
VI. Allegretto
III. Vivo
VII. Allegro, quasi pesante

( 1 900­1 984)

This evening’s program is a travelogue in sound, tracing the route of that
most famous of luxury trains, the Orient Express, which ran – at least in
its  earlier  years  –  from  Paris  through  Vienna  and  Budapest  into  the
Balkans and ended in Constantinople (present­day Istanbul). This theme

appealed to me bec ause i t  i s  also a route that runs to the outer reaches o f

the world of the clarinet, before it gives way to double­reed instruments
such as the Turkish zurna and the Indian shehnai. You will, I  think, be
able to follow the changes in this son ic scenery as well  – how melody,
harmony, rhythm and form transmute as West becomes East.

We open with a c lassic solo de concours (contest solo) by the Parisian
composer Andre Messager (1853­1929). Messager studied for a time with
Saint­Saens and  held  the  important  post as organist of St. Sulpice,  but
excelled in  ballets and operatic works. A highly respected conductor, he
directed the orchestra o f the Conservatoire d u Musique, and appeared on
the podium o f the Opera Comique in Paris as wel l as Covent Garden in
London.  Messager’s Solo de Concours,  while adhering to  the formula
stipulated for these examination pieces, is one o f the best o f its kind.  I t
begins  with  a  principal  theme  quickly  dissolving  into  virtuoso
passagework ;  a  singing  slow  section  in  the  clarinet ’s  diﬀicult  ‘throat
tones’ leads to a dramatic and ﬂorid cadenza; and a return o f the main
theme concludes in an eﬀervescent coda which  might have served  as a
ﬁnale to one of the composer’s ballets.
Like Paris, Vienna  was an  imperial capital ci ty whose  vast resources
brought the best composers to test their skill in the most demanding of
musical  communities.  Unlike  the French, the  German  clarinetist  and
composer has always been  concerned  ﬁrst  with beauty  of timbre  and
subtlety of phrasing, with virtuoso technical possibilities a distinct second.
First, we present M ozart ’s aria ‘Parto, m a  t u  ben m i o ’  for basset clarinet

Stephen Stalker, Violoncello

and soprano from his ﬁnal stage work, L a  Clemenza di Tito. In  his ﬁnal
months of life, com pleting the Clarinet Concerto aside th e opera, Mozart

Per egiV er b u n k......................L eoWeiner

(1885­196 0)

Hristiankova Kop anitsa  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  . 

About the Music

Ivo Papasov, arr. Perry
(b. 1952)

seems to fully disc over the clarinet a s the truest dramat ic substitute for­

and partner to­ the female voice. The aria’s several moods, from revenge
to compassion  to self­sacriﬁce, are brilliantly distributed  from  voice to
instrument, making full use of the basset clarinet’s extended low range to
provide lines of enormous sweep and power.

�For our second Viennese work we jump forward almost a century for the
rarely heard transcription of the Adagio from Brahms’ Violin Concerto by
the  Belgian/American  clarinetist  G ustave  Langenus.  Langenus  was  to
clarinet  transcription  what  Fritz Kreisler  was  to  works  for violin – a
master player and teacher whose complete knowledge of his instrument
brings out new and wonderful levels of beauty  from the originals.  The
movement  is one  of Brahms® most  pure and profound.  Of course  the
composer,  ever  self­deprecating,  described  it  as  ‘feeble’,  and  Sarasate
refused to play it because he didn’t want to “stand around while the oboe
played the only melody in the piece.” No problem here – Langenus lets the
clarinet do both.

Bartok, here we hear the individual melodies retained as miniatures, a set

o f several  verses  with  short  interludes that  get  their interest  from  the
constant  variation  o f  orchestration.  Each  movement  thus  retains  its

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Just  as  the  Rhine  separates  French  from  German  sound,  the  Danube
moving east towards Budapest marks a new soundscape, one ﬁrmly in the
Slavic  orbit.  Formal  traditions  give  way  to  folk  inﬂuence  ever  more
strongly  now,  with  the  clarinet  (and  violin)  as  folk  melodists  par
excellence. Harmonies simplify, but rhythms become ever more complex.
We  close  the  ﬁrst  half  with  Bela  Bartok ’s great Contrasts  for  Violin,
Clarinet  and Piano.  This  incredible  potpourri of Hungarian  folk  tunes
(with some Rumanian and Bulgarian inﬂuences) opens with a Verbunkos
dance whose march­like theme betrays its use for recruiting soldiers who
have had a bit too much to drink. One might imagine the unhappy new
recruit  awaking  during  the  clarinet’s  closing  cadenza.  The  second
movement,  entitled  Pihené  (relaxation)  seems  nearly  motionless  by

In  the music of Leo Weiner we ﬁnd again the attempt to blend the folk
(here, Magyar ‘Gypsy’) tradition with a bit more formal rigor, no doubt
inﬂuenced  by  Weiner’s position as a  Professor of Theory in  Budapest.
This Peregi Verbunk is true to Magyar form and style with its linked slow
and fast sections, and the writing for both clarinet and piano is superbly
crafted.  Diﬀicult,  yes,  but  Weiner’s  music  is  always  interesting  and
represents a ﬁne marriage of classical and folk­based traditions.
Music reﬂects our world, and sometimes as the world changes new and
exciting  musics  are  developed. On  the  outer  frontier  of the  European
clarinet comes the source for our last piece, a bit of Bulgarian Svatbarska
muzika, or “wedding music,” This existed in a tamer traditional form until
the  1970’s  when  increasingly  anti­authoritarian  sentiments  brought
western jazz and rock elements into the mix. Mixed with native Gypsy,
Magyar,  Bulgarian  and  Turkish  melodic  elements,  Balkan  musicians
produced an electric new genre that exploded worldwide with Ivo Papasov
and  Yuri  Yunakov ’s  1991  CD  Balkanology.  We  ﬁnish  our  musical
journey,  in  an  insanely  fast  meter  of  11/8  (2+2+3+2+2)  with  a  short
example  of this  manic  musical  cry  for joy  and  freedom,  Hristiankova
Kopanitsa. N.B. As none of us are as yet experts, we perform a transcribed
version  of  the  improvised  solos.  Actually,  you  may  get  some
improvisation anyway.  Welcome  to the East, and have a pleasant  trip
home!

com parison, but with all the m ystery and tension we come to expect from

Bartok’s other pieces of “night music ’.  The set ﬁnishes with a Sebes (fast
dance) whose folk credentials are assured by the use of a violin “mistuned’
(scordatura) in folk style for the opening bars. This is high­energy dance
music, and a break is provided in the middle with a slower section  in
(8+5)/8, or thirteen­eight time (!) Once rested, however, the manic pace
resumes and runs to the end.
One diﬀiculty of performing music from beyond Vienna and Prague is the
relative  paucity  of  published  materials  as  we  move  increasingly  to
unwritten  folk  performance.  A ll  of Eastern  Europe  has  undiscovered
treasures  which  are  only  slowly  coming  to  light  for  western  players.
Marko  Tajcevic ’s  Seven  Balkan  Dances, originally  composed  for  solo
piano  in  1927 and  later arranged  for Clarinet, Cello and  Piano. are an
excellent case in point. Tajcevic draws upon the songs and dances of his
native Serbia, but rather than building a complex formal structure as does

character,  and  we  can  better  appreciate  their  shifting  meters  and
increasingly oriental timbres.

­Timothy Perry Aug 2007

or

�ABOUT T H E  PERFORMERS
TIMOTHY  PERRY,  conductor  and  clarinetist,  is  Professor  of  Music  and
currently  Chair  of  the  Department  of  Music  for  Binghamton  University.  A
graduate  of the  Manhattan and  Yale  Schools of Music, Dr.  Perry  joined the
Binghamton  University faculty  in  1986, becoming  Professor of  Music  in  2002
and  receiving  the  Chancellor’s  Award  for  Creative  Activities  in  2005.  As
Conductor Dr. Perry has directed the University Orchestra since  1986, directed
the  University  Wind  Ensemble  from  1986­2005  and  led  the  Binghamton
Community Orchestra from 1994­2004. In May­June 2007 he conducted the joint
Music/Theater production of West Side Story in Santiago, Chile.  Widely known
as a clarinetist in virtuoso solo and chamber music, he toured Latin America and
the Caribbean as a United States Musical Ambassador and has presented recitals
at three world conferences of the International Clarinet Association. His recent
clarinet appearances include a July program at Cornell University, an upcoming
appearance at Ithaca College, and a week of both Clarinet and Conducting Master
Classes at the Universidad Nacional de Columbia (Bogota) in October 2007.
MARGARET REITZ, pianist, is a native of the Binghamton area.  She received

her Bachelor and Master of Music degrees in piano performance with Seymour
Fink and Walter  Ponce and accompanying emphasis, studying piano with Jean

Casadesus,  Victor  Rosenbaum,  Seymour  Fink  and  Walter  Ponce  and
accompanying with Allen Rogers. She has accompanied throughout the United
States,  Europe  and  South  America:  she  was  an  oﬀicial  accompanist  for  the
MTNA State and Eastern Division Competition  held at  Ithaca College  in  2001
and  2006,  has  been  a  guest  chamber  music  artist  in  Morges,  Switzerland,
attended  the  Northwestern  Workshop  with  Chicago  Lyric  Opera Faculty  and
Coaches, was an oﬀicial pianist at the International Double Reed Competition and
Convention in June 2007 at Ithaca College and was selected to accompany at the
Interpretation of Spanish Music  Festival in Grenada, Spain  in July 2007, where
she performed at several concerts and masterclasses coached by Teresa Berganza.
A guest artist on the Cornell Summer Series this past summer, she will perform
Beethoven’s  Triple  Concerto  with  Binghamton  Community  Orchestra  and  is
nominated for the Heart of the Arts Award sponsored by the BC Arts Council.
Ms. Reitz is currently on the faculty at Binghamton University and Ithaca College
School of Music.  She is on the Executive Board of the New York District MTNA
organization,  is  past  President  of  the  local  Southern  Tier  Music  Teachers
Association  and  is  an  active  adjudicator  for  the  National  Piano  Guild
Organization.
Canadian­born  violinist  J A N E Y   CHOI  joined  the  faculty  of  Binghamton
University in 2006. Dr. Choi attained her Doctor of Musical Arts degree at Rutgers
University, studying with Arnold Steinhardt, and holds her Bachelor and Masters
degrees from The Juilliard School where her major teachers were Joseph Fuchs and
Joel Smirnoﬀ.  She gave her Carnegie Hall recital debut in  1997 as a winner of the
Artists  International  Auditions  and  continues  a n  active  perform ing  career  as  a

recitalist, chamber, and orchestral musician throughout the country and abroad. She
has  participated  in  such  festivals  as  Mostly  Mozart,  Juilliard’s  Focus  Festival,

Norfolk, Taos, the Spoleto Festivals, Festival Musical de Santo Domingo, the Santa

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Fe Opera and the Sarasota Opera. An avid inter­arts and cross­genre collaborator,
she  is  the Music  Director of Thomas/Ortiz Dance, and has performed numerous
times with the Parsons Dance Co. at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C.  She
has recorded and appeared with such mainstream performers as Bono and Quincy
Jones,  Enya,  Elton  John, Sarah  McLachlan,  Lisa  Loeb, Kanye  West, Jay­Z and
Beyoncé. Ms. Choi is a Teaching Artist for the New York Philharmonic, Lincoln
Center Institute, Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center and the Bloomingdale
School of Music in New York City.

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STEPHEN STALKER, cellist, joined the faculty of Binghamton University in
1982. He is a graduate of the Manhattan School of Music in New York City. He
formerly taught at Colgate University, Mansﬁeld University, Ithaca College and
for  the  Binghamton  City  School  District.  He  was  the  principal  cellist  of the
Cayuga Chamber Orchestra in  Ithaca, NY, and has performed extensively with
the Catskill Chamber Players of Oneonta, NY, where he has presented Meet the
Composer concerts with  prominent  American  composers  including John Cage,
Virgil Thomson, Lou Harrison and George Crumb and premiered a set of four
string quartets by Henry Brant at Weil Recital Hall. He performs regularly with
the Trio Amici, Trilogy, Baroque ‘n Blue, Early On and performed the complete
Beethoven Trio cycle with  violinist Janet Brady and  pianist  Walter  Ponce. He
performed with Solisti New York, and as a member of the Madison String Quartet
was a ﬁnalist in the Naumberg Chamber Music Competition in New York City
and the Evian International String Quartet Competition in Evian, France. A past
president  of  the  New  York  State  Chapter  of  the  American  String  Teachers
Association,  Mr.  Stalker  is  a  founder  of the  Southern  Tier  Music  Teachers
Association and the Binghamton Cello Festival and was past Strings Chair for the
New York State School Music Association.
IVY  GAIBEL, mezzo­soprano  most  recently  performed  at  the  Spoleto,  USA
festival  in  Chartleston,  SC  in Kurt  Weill’s  The Rise and Fall of the  City  of
Mahagonny.  Ms.  Gaibel  is  a  graduate of the Tri­Cities  Opera  Resident  Artist
Training  Program,  where  she  performed  numerous  roles  including  her
“precocious” Cherubino  in  Le  Nozze  di  Figaro and Nicklausse  in  Les Contes
D’Hoﬀmann. Her TCO performance of Dido in Dido and Aeneas  was noted as
“beautifully performed with exquisite phrasing.”  Ms. Gaibel made her debut at
Syracuse Opera in 2004 and was awarded Artist of the Year in a supporting role.
Since then she has been an active performer on the main stage as  well as the
ensemble, including her role as Mercedes in Syracuse Opera’s 2007 production of
Carmen. Performance  Awards  include First  Place,National  Association of the
Teachers of Singing, 2001  and the  George L. Hinman  Award  from  Tri­Cities
Opera 2004. In  the Summer of 2006 Ms. Gaibel  was a member of Des Moines
Metro Opera’s Apprentice Artist Program. She has appeared with many regional
orchestras  including  the  Binghamton  Philharmonic  and  the  Orchestra  of  the
Southern Finger lakes. This year Ms. Gaibel will be Assistant Professor of Voice
at Ithaca College. She has upcoming engagements with the Binghamton Baroque
Ensemble and numerous recital appearances in the area.

�P art o,  m a  t u  be n  m io :  Translation:
I leave but you, my beloved , will ret urn to me in peace ;
I will be what most pleases you; what you want, I’ll do.

Look at me and I’ll forget everything, and I’ll rush to avenge you ;
Give only a glance and the deed by me will be done.
Ah, what power, oh Gods
did you bestow on Beauty!
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Comin g Musi c Events
Sunday, Septem ber 9 – A Sonic Blast : Thrilling Works  for Organ, Brass
and Percussion – 4:00 p.m. – Frist Presbyterian Church, Binghamton ­
$15 general public ; $13 fac ulty/staﬀ/seniors; $7 students
Sunday, Septem ber 30  –  Romanti cism  Unleashed : A facu lty  recital  by
cellist St ephen Stalker – 3 :00 p.m. – Casadesus Recital Hall ­ $9 general
public; $ 7 faculty/staﬀ/sen iors; $1 students

Th ursday, October 4 – Mid­Day Conc ert ­­ 1 :20 p.m. – Casadesus  Recital
Hall – free
Th ursday,  October   1 1   –  Mid­Day  Concert   –  1 :20  p.m.  –  Casadesus
Recital Hall – free
Sunday,  October  1 4 – University Or chestra : Suite D iversions – 3 :00 p.m.
–  Anderson  Center  Concert  Theater  ­  $9  general  public;  $7
faculty/staﬀ/senio rs; free fo r student s

Th ursday,  October  1 8  –  Mid­Day  Concert   –  1 :20  p.m.  –  Casadesus
Recital Hall – free
F riday, October  1 9 –  Sunday, Octobe r  21  –  New  York  State  Music
Teachers Association (NY SMTA) – Anderson Center Chamber Hall and
Casadesus – free
Sunday, Octobe r 20 – Family W eekend C oncert – 3:00 p.m. – Osterhout
Concert Theater – free
Th ursday,  Octo ber  2 5  –  Mid­Day  Concert   –  1 :20  p.m.  –  Casadesus

Recital Hall – free

Th ursday, October  2 5 – Jazz  Scholarship Con cert (In  memor of Ro bert
Terrell) – 8:00 p.m. – Osterhout Concert Theater ­ $1 8 general public ; $16
faculty/staﬀ/seniors; $ 10 students

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U N I V E R S I T Y

State University of New York

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D E P A R T M E N T

ROMANTICISM UNLEASHED
S T E P H E N  S T A L K E R , C E L L O
music by Grieg, Sibelius, Janacek and Debussy

Assisted by

Michael Salm irs, piano
Ewa Mac kiewicz­W olfe, pian o

September 30, 2007
3:00 p. m.
Casadesus Recital Hall

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P rog ram
Sonata in A minor, Op. 36 (1883)................................Edvard Grieg
Allegro agitato 
(1843­1907)
Andante molto tranquillo
Allegro

Malinconia, Op. 20 (1901)................

.... Jan Sibelius
(1865­1957)

Stephen Stalker, cello
Ewa Mackiewicz­Wolfe, piano

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Tale v
Con Fantasia 
Con moto
Allegro

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Sonata (1915)... 

i Leos Janacek  
( 1 858­1 928)

Claude Debussy

Prologue 
Serenade et Finale

( 1 862­1 91 8)

Stephen Stalker, cello
Michael Salmirs, piano

�P rog ram Notes
The  Romantic  Movement  in music  was  itself an  unleashing of the
Classical  styles  that  were  exempliﬁed  by  Haydn.  Mozart  and
Beethoven.  In  fact,  it  was  Beethoven  who  set  the  unleashing  in
motion  by  challenging  his  aristocratic  sponsors  to  accept  a  highly
individualized style which was breaking the rules o f classical tradition
they cherished so dearly.  As the musical culture was expanding from
the aristocratic. agrarian society to the newly developing middle class,
urban. industrial society. the  concert  venue changed  from the royal
chamber hall to the public concert hall.  Composers were now inspired
to speak their musical minds in a much freer and more personal way,
letting this new class of concert goer decide the success or failure of
their new music.

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Leos Janacek derived much of h is musical style from many years of
study  of Czech  folk  songs  and the  rhythms  and  inﬂections  of the
Moravian  language,  plus  a  life  long  interest  in  Russian  language,
music and literature.  The literary inspiration for his cello and piano
piece “Fairy Tale” is based on the Russian stories of Czar Berendej as
told  by Russian author Vasily Zukovskij but, the musical language is
from his beloved Czech folk music.
Debussy  says.  “Music  is  a  free  art  gushing  forth, an  open­air  art
boundless as the elements. the wind, the sky. the sea.  It must never be

shut in and become an academic art.”  This sentiment would qualify
Debussy  as  a  Romantic,  but  his  music.  while  inspired  by  this

sentiment,  was more  o ften  rev olut ionary  in  its  achievement.  A nd

arguably.  he  had  a  comparable  inﬂuence  on  many  20”  century
composers as Beethoven had on h is 19” century musical descendants.

As  the  Romantic  Movement  in  music  spread  through  Europe.  it
became fused with the new spirit o f Nationalism that was developing
at  the  same  time.  This  growing  pride  in  the  native  folklore  and
authentic peasant music of each county had a profound eﬀect on  the
composers  of  all  the  nation  states  o f  Europe.  The  Romantic
Movement  itself was now being unleashed  into the unique musical
cultures that existed throughout Europe.

He characterized the C ello Sonata as “Pierrot angry with the moon.”
The compositional style is episodic and more like outbursts than the

usual  themes  and  melodies. 

This  was  a  new  unleashing  of

Romant ic ism, this t ime into the 2 0” century.

This brings us to today ’s program.  Each o f these four composers was
a unique  and  inﬂuential  voice  in their respective  countries.  From
Norway,  Grieg  tells  us.  “The  fundamental  trait  of Norwegian  folk
song  is  a  deep  melancholy  that  may  suddenly  change  to  a  wild
unrestrained gaiety.”  This is an apt thumb nail sketch o f Grieg ’s own
musical style.  The Cello Sonata, dedicated to hi s cellist brother. John,
abounds  with simple and compelling melodies  which often develop
into impassioned outpourings.

Sibelius  tells  us  of his  deeply  felt  relationship  with  the  natural
beauty o f his native Finland.  “I love the mysterious sounds o f the
ﬁelds and forests. weather and mountains.  It pleases me greatly to be
called a poet of nature. for nature has truly been the book o f books for
me.”  When listening to his music you can easily imagine the stark.
natural terrain of the Finnish landscape.  “Malinconia” is generally a
dark. elegiac piece, interlaced with sections of courage and hope.

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College and the Binghamton City School District. He was the principal
cellist of the Cayuga Chamber Orchestra in Ithaca, NY, and has performed
extensively  with the Catskill Chamber Players of Oneonta, NY, and  in
concerts at Binghamton University. Performing with the Catskill Chamber
Players  he  has presented Meet  the  Composer  concerts  with  prominent
American composers including John Cage. V irgil Thomson, Lou Harrison
and George Crumb. The Chamber Players appeared at Weill  Recital Hall.
premiering a set of four string quartets by Henry Brant.  With violinist,
Janet  Brady.  and  pianist,  Walter  Ponce.  he  performed  the  complete
Beethoven  Trio cycle at  SUNY­Binghamton. He performed with Solisti
New York on their Alaskan cruise of the Inner Passage from Vancouver to
Juneau. As a member o f the Madison String Quartet, he was a ﬁnalist in
the Naumberg Chamber Music  Competition in New  York City and the
Evian International String Quartet Competition in Evian, France. He has
performed in many recital appearances with pianist, Michael Salmirs. He
performs regularly with the Trio Amici, Trilogy, Baroque ‘n Blue, Early
On and in concerts at Binghamton University.  He is a past president of
the New York State Chapter of the American String Teachers Association
and was Strings Chair for the New York State School Music Association.
He is a founder of the Southern Tier Music Teachers Association and the
Binghamton Cello Festival. He is a graduate of the Man hattan School of
Music in New York City.
Pianist  M I C H A E L  SALMIRS, a found ing member and artistic director
of the Finger Lakes Chamber Ensemble, is well known as a recitalist and
chamber  musician.  He  has  appeared  as  soloist  with  the  Coming
Philharmonic,  Binghamton  University  Orchestra,  Cayuga  Chamber
Orchestra, and is frequently a featured pianist on their Sunday Chamber
Series.  In addition  to  performing most  o f the  standard  chamber music
repertoire  for  strings  and piano, he has  premiered numerous  solo  and
chamber works, and recently gave the world premieres of David Liptak’s
and  Marek  Harris’  Piano  Quintets.  He  has  also  participated  in  such
contemporary  music  series  as  Binghamton  University ’s  Musica Nova,
Cornell University ’s Ensemble X, Chiron, and has toured and recorded for
the Syracuse Society for New Music.

Mr.  Salmirs  studied  at  the  New  England  Conservatory  and  Eastman
School of Music; his teachers have included pianists Leonard Shure and
Rebecca  Penneys and  composer  Karel  Husa. Salmirs  has taught at the
Syracuse University School of Music, Hobart and William Smith Colleges
and Cornell University. He is currently a faculty member at Binghamton
University where he teaches piano and coaches chamber music. He also
maintains a private piano studio in Ithaca and enjoys teaching students of
all  ages  and  levels. This  season.  Salmirs  will  perform  a  solo  recital
featuring Ravel’s Gaspard de la nuit and a world premiere of a work by
Paul  Goldstaub. A complete schedule of performances can  be  found on
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EWA  MACKIEWICZ­ WOLFE,  the  winner  of  the  International
Competition  of  Renaissance  and  Baroque  Music,  and  the

International Competition for Young Pianists in Warsaw, Poland, is also
the recipient of awards in international music competitions in Budapest,

Hungary  and  Dresden,  Germany.  Mackiewicz­Wolfe  received  her
Bachelor and Master degrees in Piano Performance with honors and high
distinction  from  the  Academy  of Music  in  Lodz,  Poland  where  she
continued  as  Assistant  Professor  and  Master  Lecturer  in  music.  Since
1984,  she  has  been  associated  with  the  Binghamton  University  Music
Department where she is currently engaged as Adjunct Professor of Piano.
Abroad, Mackiewicz­Wolfe appeared in Germany, Hungary, Canada and

Poland  as a  recitalist, chamber musician  and as soloist  with  symphony
orchestras. She participated in several music festivals such as the Festival
of Karol Szymanowski, the Piano Festival of Vladislav Kedra, Poland,
Chamber Music  Festivals  in Germany  and Hungary.  Her piano career
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Polish Artists/Musicians, Government Art Agency (PAGAR T), the Karol
Szymanowski Musical Society, Lodz Philharmonic Society, and various
music colleges. In  United States Mackiewicz­Wolfe performed throughout
the Northeast including Boston, New York City and Philadelphia.

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                    <text>BINGHAMTON
UNLVEKSILTY

State University of New York

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T H U R S DAY  MID­DAY C O N C E R T
FEATURING

O P E R A  G R A D U A T E  S TUDENTS
WITH

M ARGARET REITZ, PIANO

Thursday, October 11, 2007
1 :2 0 p.m.
Casadesus Recital Hall

 

�T ranslations

PROGRAM
I.

Farfaletta
11 fervido desiderio

. . . . .  Bellini
(1801­1835)

l.
Farfaletta

L itt le butterﬂy, wait ­ wait!;

don’t ﬂy around in such a hurry.

I don’t want to do you any harm;

stop – satisfy my wishes.

Sibongile Boyd, sop rano

I want to kiss you and to give you food,
to protect you from dangers.

You will have a room o f  c rystal,

and you will always be comfortable

II.

Aria:  Verdrai, carino
from Don Giovanni

. W.A. Mozart

( 1 756­1 791)

Danielle McCorm ick Knox, soprano
III.
Recitative and aria: ....... 
.  .  .
In quali eccessi, o numi...Mi tradi
from Don Giovanni

. W.A. Mozart
( 1 756­1 791)

I want to capture you, oﬀer you to him;

more than roses, lilies, and myrtle

may my young man be dear to you,
and you will be a plaything for him.
In his appearance and smooth breast

LaToya Lewis, sop rano

my dear one is like roses and lilies.
Come, escape from dangers:

search no more for roses and lilies.

IV.

Spirate pur, spirate
Quando ti rivedro

I know that April has ornamented
your golden, ~peckled wings,
that you are pretty, lively and agile,
the most beautiful among your kind.
But my darling has hair of gold ­
the boy that I love and adore.
And equally lively and agile as you,
among his kind he is the most handsome

.Stefano Donaudy
(1879­1925)

A riana Zbrzezny, mezzo­sop rano

IL  fervido desiderio
When will that day come
when I shall be able to see again
the one whom my loving heart so much
desires?

V.

When  will  that  day  come  when  I  will
gather you to my bosom.

Aria: Endless Pleasure
from Semele

Sibongile Boyd, so p rano

Aria:  Cruda Sorte....  .  .
from L ’italiana in Algeri

VI.

A riana Zbrzezny, mezzo­sop rano

wssassass GF. Handel

(1685­1 759)

..G. Rossini
(1 792­1868)

beautiful ﬂame of love, my soul!
IL

A ria : Verd rai, carino
Zerlina happens upon her husband­to­be,
Masetto, who has been cruelly beaten by
Don Giovanni in a dark alley in Seville.
Once he promises to give up his jealous
tendencies and to trust her, she promises to

take him home, to heal him with the kind of
medicine “no pharmacist can provide” –
her own loving ministrations

IIL

Recitative and aria :
In quali eccessi, o numi

Donna Elvira is torn by two contrasting
emotions – her desire to wreak vengeance

upon Don Giovanni for his betrayal and
abandonment of her, and her obvious
lingering passion for the cad.  She decides

to give him one more chance to repent and
return to her.

IV.
Spirate pur, spirate

Waft, waft around my beloved one,
little breezes, and ascertain if she holds m e

in her heart.
Waft, waft little breezes!

I f  in her heart she holds me, ascertain it,
blessed breezes. breezes gentle and
blessed!
Quando ti rived ro...
When will I see you again,
unfaithful lover who was to me so dear?
So many tears have I wept now that
someone else separates us,  that I fear every
joy be gone forever from my life.
And yet the more I despair, the more I go
back to hoping.
The more I despise you in my thoughts,
still more my soul turns to loving you

again.

When will I see you again, unfaithful lover
who was dear to me like that?
V.
Endless Pleasu re from Semele
Having successfully pleaded to Jupiter to
delay her upcoming arranged marriage,
Semele is brought to heaven by Jupiter and
sings this joyous gavotte in celebration o f
her triumph.
VIL
Cruda sorte!
In search of her lost love, Isabella, an
Italian lady is shipwrecked on the Algerian
shore.  Faced with the pirates on shore,
Isabella is conﬁdent of her ability to handle
any man, resolves to be fearless. (Schirme r)

�Com ing Events
Sunday, October 1 4 ­­  U niversity Orchest ra :  Suite Diversions – 7:30  p.m. –
Anderson Center Concert Theater ­ $9 general  public; $7 faculty/staﬀ/seniors;
free for students

Thursday, October 18 – Mid­Day Concert – 1:2 0 p.m. ­ Casadesus Recital Hall
free
— 
Friday, October 1 9 – Sunday, October 2 1 – New Yor k State M usic Teachers
Association (NYSMTA) – Anderson Center Cham ber Hall and Casadesus – free

Satu rday, October  20 –  Family  Weekend  Concert – 3:00  p.m.  – Osterhout
Concert Theater – free
Th u rsday, October 25 – Mid­Day Concert – 1 :20 p.m. ­  Casadesus Recital Hall
­ free
Th u rsday, October 2 5 –  Big  Band  Jazz! A scholarship  beneﬁt  in  memory of
Robert Terrell ­­ 8:00 p.m . – Osterhout Concert Theater ­ $18 general public; $16
faculty/staﬀ/seniors; $10 for students
Friday, October 26 – M ad rigal Choir of Bingha mton ­­  8:00 p.m. – Anderson
Center  Chamber  Hall  ­ $15  general  public;  $10  faculty/staﬀ/seniors;  $5  for
students

Wed nesday,  October  31  –  Indian  Concert  with  vocalist  Pandit  Kaivalya
K u mar,  Pt.  Ra vind ra  Yavgal  on  tabla  a n d  Pt.  Ravind ra  Katoti  on
harmon i u m – 7:00 p.m. – Anderso n Center Chamber Hall ­ $12 general public;
$1 0 faculty/staﬀ/seniors; $5 students
Th u rsday, Novem ber 1 – Mid­Day Concert – 1 :20 p.m. – Casadesus Recital Hall
free
— 
Friday, N ove m ber 2 –  M aster ’s Recital –  Daniel Sofer, piano – 8 :00 p.m. –
Casadesus Recital Hall – free

Satu rday, Novem ber 3 – Clarinet Trio Recital – 8:00 p.m. – Casadesus Recital
Hall – free

Th u rsday, Novem ber 8 ­ Mid­Day Concert – 1 :20 p.m. – Casadesus Recital Hall
free
— 
Th u rsda y,  Nove m ber  8  –  Bingha m ton  Baroq ue  E nsem ble  –  8:00  p.m.  –
Casadesus  Recital  Hall  –  $9  general  public;  $7  faculty/staﬀ/seniors;  $1  for
students

Satu rday, Novem ber 1 0 – U niversity C horus : Words and Music – 8:00 p.m. –
Anderson Center Concert Theater – free

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                    <text>BINGHAMTON
U N I V E R S I T Y

S t a t e  linit’ersit y­ of  N e w  Y o r k

— 

tedee

D E P A R T M E N T

University Symphony O rchestra

‘Suite Diversions’
Timothy Per ry, Conducto r
Georgetta Maiolo, Flute Soloist

l

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October 14, 2007
7:30 p.m.
Anderson Center Osterhout Theater

�University Symphony Orchestra

Program

Timothy Perry. Director

Suite in A minor for Flute and Strings......... Georg Philip Telemann
Flute/Piccolo(*)
Erica Leo
Valerie Spiller
Missy Voldan*
Oboe/English Horn
Marissa Ludwig
Maxwell Rosenberg
Clarinet
Matthew Hassell
Bethany  Bonhotf
Gregg Ackerman
Alexander Vincenzi
Bassoon
Eleanor Sonley
Martha Weber

French Horn
Diana Amari
Kristie Cummings
Alexa Weinberg
Robert Muller
Matt Rek
Trumpet
Daniel Fein
Anne Meyer
Trombone

Rick Mokan
Thomas Ignacio

Tuba
Katherine Winchell

Percussion
Amanda Jacobs
Caleb R. DeGroote
Kelly Tufo
Lee Vininsky
Stephanie Lehman
H arp
Mary  Schappert
Ke y board
Karmi Knight­Winning
Harpsichord
Prof. Chai­Ky ou Mallinson
V iolin I
Akira Maezawa
Solomon Da w son
Elizabeth Sterling
Hyobin Lee
Eric Lewis Clark
Griﬀin Sargent
Erin Chang
Janet Kim
Yang Hu
Erika Chin
Eileen Tam
Ye­Won Kwak

Violin 11

Boaz Tingson
Aileen Giselle Ra
Andreana Ferro
Amy Honigsberg
Dana Kerker
Beth Vayshenker

Molly  Ariotti
Richard Goldman
K ev in Acunto
Christ ina Laube
Rachel Jacobs
V iola
Sarah Sterling
Sarah Kuras
Joseph Giliberti
Shane Thorn
Jeﬀrey  Kuhn
Axexandra Burkardt
Kelly Singer
Janet lev ins
V ioloncello

Emily Creo
Jennifer Chen

Air a I ’ltalien

Polonaise
Réjouissance

Georgetta Maiolo, Flute Solo
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.  .  ...Claude LEDISSY

(1862­1918)

Menuet
Ballet

Suite from “The Three­Cornered H a t  ....................Manuel De Falla
(1 876­1 946 )

Fan fare 
A ft e rnoon
The Neighbor’s Dance ( Seguidilla )
l‘he M iller ’s Dance ( Farruca )

Intermiss ion

Daniel Copel
Jennifer Chen

Serena Murray
David Katz
Owen Dombert

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Holly  A gar
Ry an Joy ce

C ontraba s s
Stephen Brook s
Rachel Casey

(1681­1767)

Overture: (Lento­Bewegt) 
Minuet I &amp;  11

S la vonic Dances, Op. 46.....  .  .  .  .  ..  .  ..  ..Antonin Dvorak
(1841­1904)

No. 5 in  A Major 
No. 6 in D Major
No. 7 in C Minor
No. 8 in G Minor

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for a program of brilliant music f r o m the movies.
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c onc er t  f o l l o w  signs.

�About the Music
This  evening  celebrates  the  diversity  o f one  o f orchestral  music ’s  most  common
genres, the suite. ( from the French word for “following” or “succeeding’). We oﬀer for
y our enjoy ment a potpourri o f national sty les and historical periods whose organi zing
principle ranges  from more  formal (Telemann) to  decidedly  more  casual (Dvorak)
interpretat ion o f  the term “suite”.  Suites are b y  their v ery nature collect ions o f  largely

disparate elements. What holds them t ogether may  be nothing more than a common
origin, often as a group o f  dances, ( or in the case o f  the Debussy. a set o f  p iano pieces )
and  the  ident iﬁable  sty list ic  signature  o f  their  composer.  They  generally  lack

motivic/thematic unity and, since the end o f the baroque era, no longer share a single
f talent. even genius, their lack
 
or tightly related ke y : but in the hands o f composer o

o f  c on form i t y a n d predic t abi l it y  i s t urned int o a  strength ­  the y  are, more than other

multi­movement forms. free to engage. surprise and delight us.

Georg Philipp  Telemann  ma y  be  the  Baroque  composer  whose  present  fame  least
accords with art ist ic achievements. Tonight ’s Suite in A­minor is merely  one o f more
than  200  orchestral  suite ‘ouvertures  composed  during  a  long  and  incredibly
productive career.  Telemann  was probably  better know n and more highly  esteemed
than even Bach and Handel.  In a period in which musical  forms  were  st ill  “taking
form’. i t i s n o surprise that  th is suit e borrow s  from sev era l arc het y pes. in part ic ular

merging elements  o f the  dance­suite  with  those  o f the  developing  concerto  form.
Apart from the various Concerti o f J.S. Bach it is probably  toda y the most­performed
concerto­suite o f  the age. T e lemann ’ s suites s h o w a n  a st on ish ing range o f  crea t i v it y,

and  man y  are  organized  around  a  principle.  in  this  case  an  “international’  theme.
Opening with a two­part French Overt ure, which un folds in an arched [ abcba ] form.
tonight ’s suite inc ludes a double German Minuet, an Air in the Italian style ( calling to
mind Mendelssohn ’s Italian sy mphon y). a Polish Polonaise with Trio and a brilliant
concluding Rejouissance.  Throughout the work the composer shows a command not
only o f the myriad dance sty les o f the period. but a highly  inventive and play ful sense
for rhythm  (particularly  in his  penchant  for reversing  the  pattern  o f stressed  and
unstressed beat s ) and a great per former ’ s sens it i v it y  t o the poss ib i l it ies and l im it at ions
o f t h e s o l o in s tru m e n t .

There  are  man y  examples  in music  o f orchestral  suites  that  have  been  transcribed
success fully  to  the  piano :  Debussy ’s  Petite Suite  is  a  rare  case  o f a  piano  work
transcribed success fully  in the other direction.  The suite dates from the later 1 880s,
in a period in  which the y oung Prix  de Rome  winner w as  work ing to  ﬁnd his ow n
compositional  voice.  The  original  work  for  two  pianos  quick ly  disappeared  from
concert  programs,  and  only  in  1907  when  conductor  and  composer  Henri  Busser
orchestrated the four movements  (and apparently received Debussy ’s blessing) did it
ﬁnd a secure place in the repertoire. Busser employ s what  is essentially  a chamber
orchestra, with a Mozartean w ind section augmented for color only  by  the ubiquitous
harp and the use o f piccolo and English horn. There is. as  with many  early  Debussy
works. the  Bel/e Epogue’s  fasc ination  with history : the  evocative  titles o f the  four
movements are likely  a nod to the pictorial harpsichord suit es (ordres) o f  Couperin.
Debussy ’s musical vocabulary o f this early period is ec lectic and shares much with
contemporaries like Faure and Massane t.  His forms are conventional ternary  [ aha ]

forms  featuring a middle  section o f contrasting rhythms and (under Busser’s hand)
varied timbres.  These middle sections are so cleverly constructed that each is able to
re­appear  as  subt le  counterpoint s  in  the  return  o f   the  ﬁrst  theme.  Busser ’s

orchestration  is  restrained  but  always  colorful.  retaining  in  the  grace  and  almost
childlike energy o f  the music his respect for the piano originals.

The  production  o f the  ballet  version  o f EI Sombrero  de  Tres  Picos  (The  Three­
cornered Hat ) grew  from stage music that De Falla supplied to a 1916 production o f
the pantomime pla y E/  corregidor y la molinera  –  The magistrate and the  Miller’s
wife (In  which a local magistrate  tries unsuccessfully  –to his pain ­ to  seduce  the
pretty  w i fe o f the local miller ). Sergei Diaghilev, the director o f the  famous Bullcl
Russes  that had  scandalized Paris  with Stravinsky ’s Rite o f  S pring just a  few years
before. convinced De Falla to expand the score, engaged Pablo Picasso to de sign the
scenery, and hired Leonide Massine to do the choreography. The work prem iered to
great  success  in London  in  19 19 and has  been a  fa vorite o f ballet companies ever
since that time. Tonight ’s excerpts begin with a bullﬁght­inspired fanfare representing
the lusty Corregidor. The second section The Ajiernoon surges with the languid power
o f the summer Spanish sun. The Neighb or’s Dance is set as a seguidilla in which the
music alternates and combines motives in 3 /8 and 3/4 time. creating a complex web o f
sound at once beguiling and m y sterious. The ﬁna l Miller’s Dance is a masculine tour

de fo rc e.  Massine recalls the dance as “a series of high jumps. ending with a turn in

mid­air and a savage stamp o f the foot as I tanded. ­ the mental image o f an enraged
bull going into the attack.” One o f only  twenty  works that De Falla ever completed.
The  Three­cornered  hat  became  one  o f the  quintessential  examples  o f  Spanish
sy mphonic sty le for the twentieth century.
  l avo n i c  Da n c es  w ere writ ten i n  response t o a request  from the
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Berlin  publisher  Simrock  for  a  set  o f dances  in  the  st y le  o f Brahms”  Hungarian
Dances.  Dvorak  composed  the  ﬁrst  set  o f eight  dances  (Op.46)  for piano  duet  in
spring  1878. and completed their orchestrations b y the beginning o f August. A rave
review  o f the  dances  and  the  Moravian  Duets  in the Berlin  Nationalzeitung made
Dvorak a household name throughout Europe. and the music made Simrock a fortune.
The dances ( o f which  we present nos. 5­8) are an amalgam o f original material and
remembered  ­ or partially remembered  folk tunes from Dvorak ’s youth  (playing in
v illage  bands ) and  his many  later  travels.  As  such  the y  are  generally  mixtures  o f
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dance­types.  A s  Antonin Sy chra notes  “he ( Dvorak ) is not a fraid o f sty lizat ion; he
sat isﬁes himsel f with the credible and convincing nature o f the basic mood.” No. 5 in
A  Major  mixes  elements  o f faster  skocnd  and  vrtak  and  includes  some  ﬁve­bar
phrases in its middle section. No 6 in D Major is minuet­like. elegant with a rh ythmic

ac c ompan iment dra w n  from t he sousedsk a .  No. 7  i s a tetka in moderate tempo that

l dance o f the set suite is a
 
proceeds to double­time in the manner o f galop. The ﬁna
marvelous fur ian t in w hich the music constant ly alternates rh y thm ( l  – 2  ­  3 ­  123  ­
1 23 ) and shifts between major and minor modes. Like the Debussy, Dvorak uses an
[ aba ]  form  but  seamlessly  merges  elements  from  disparate  themes  in  the
recapitulation.  In all the dances there is an easy, ebullient. y outhful energy that cannot
help but coax a smile from the casual  listener and admiration from the most  learned
music­lover.
T. Perry, September 2007

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T I M O T H Y  P E R R Y .  conduc tor  and  c larinet ist,  is  Pro fessor  o f  M us ic  and  c urrent ly
Cha ir  o f  the  Depart ment  o f  Music  for  Bingham ton  Un i v ers it y.  A  graduate  o f  the
Manhattan  and  Y a le  Schools  o f  M us ic,  Dr.  Perry  joined  the  Bingham ton  Un i vers it y
faculty  in  1 986. becoming Pro fessor o f Music  in 2002 and receiv ing the Chancellor ’s
Aw ar d  for  Creat i v e  A c t i v it ies  in  2 005.  A s  Conduc tor  Dr.  Perry  has  direc ted  the
Un i v ers it y  Orchestra  s ince  1 986. direc ted  the  Un i v ers it y  W ind Ensemb le  from  1986–
2005  and  led  the  Bingham ton  Commun it y  Orchestra  from  1 994­ 2004.  I n  M a y­June
200  he conduc ted the joint M us ic/Theat er produc t ion o f   West Side Story  in Sant iago,
Chile.  W idely  know n as a  c larinet ist  in virtuoso  solo and chamber music. he toured
L at in  A merica  and  the  Caribbean  as  a  Un it ed  States  Musical  A mbassador  and  has
presented rec itals at  three  world con ferences of  the Internat ional Clarinet  A ssoc iat ion.
H is  recent  c larinet  appearances  inc lude  per formances  at  B U ,   Corne ll  and  I thaca
Co l lege.  From  Oct  20­ 2  he  present s  3 0  hours  o f  C larinet  and  Conduc t ing  Master
C lasses at the Un i vers idad N ac iona l de Columbia ( Bogota ).

Her  per formances  ha ve  earned her  la v ish  pra ise:  “Georgetta  Maiolo  prov ided  some
exquisite musical moments in her ﬂut e solos,” wrote A lice M itchell in a rev iew  in The
Press &amp;  Sun–Bulletin in Binghamton, New  York.  “Georgetta Maiolo should be singled
out  for praise in her work  w ith Soprano Louise Wohla fka in the “Mad  Scene”  in Luc ia.
Her tone  was like another lovely  voice in the cadenza...Ms. Maiolo’s wonder ful tone
and  mus ic ianship  w ere  in ev idence here and through  the ent ire opera,” commented a
cr it ic  for  W S K G – F M   rad io.  I n  the  A ugust  1 999  O p e r a   News  rev ie w  o f  T r i­Cit ies
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at tended  graduate  school  at  W est  V irgin ia  Un i v er s i t y,  Morgant ow n,  W est  V irgin ia .
She  studied  w ith  Bernard  Goldberg,  princ ipa l  ﬂut ist  o f  the  Pittsburgh  Sy mphon y.
Marcel Moy se at Marlboro School o f  Music, and V ictor Saudek .  At  the age o f  15, she
ma de her  so lo  debut  w i t h  the  P it t sburgh  S y mp h on y .  Mrs.  M a io lo  is  t he  rec ipient  o f
numerous honors, inc luding the NCMEA N at iona l mus ic a ward, the Pittsburgh  Tuesday

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education.  She  has  premiered  composit ions  for  ﬂut e by  Jack  Mart in,  Dan  Lock lair,
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Anderson  Center  Chamber  Hall  ­  $15  general  public;  $1 0
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                    <text>BINGHAMTON
U N I V E R S I T Y

State University of  New York
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T HURSDAY MID­DAY C ONCERT

October 25, 2007
1 :2 0 p. m.
Casadesus Recital Hall

�T ranslatio ns
1

Stefano Donoudy
F reschi luogh i, prati aule nti
Cool places, fragrant meadows,
Remain always in ﬂowe r;
Let not summ er sow seed in you,

PROGRAM
Freshi luoghi prati aulenti ..
...........Stefano Donoudy
Vaghissima sembianza
(1879­1925)
Quando ti rivedro
Venuto e l’aprile
Alexander Blitstein, t enor
Chai­Kyou Mallinson

Let not autu mn carry yo u away,

Let not the dead season take away
So much magical splendor.
I want one day to ramble with her
Amidst softness so green,
When at last my pangs
She will show h e r s e l f
understand.
Cool places, fragrant meadows,
Remain always in ﬂowe r.
Let not any season take a way

Aria from C osi fan tutte

In uomini, in soldati
Una donna a quindici anni

Wolfgang Mozart
(1 756­1 791)

Sigbonile Boyd, soprano
Margaret Reitz, piano

Sonata, Op. 31, no. 1
I.  Allegro vivace
III.  Rondo, All egretto
Danielle So fer, piano

Ludwig van Beethoven
(1770­1827)

So much magical splendor.
And you then, clear streamlets,
Which already are runni ng to the
sea,
Don’t be miserly with your waters
In the late season of the year,
Don’t you join also the deception
Of a prosperity so brief.
I want one day to be reﬂected with
her
In your clarity,
When at last my pangs
She will show h e r s e l f
understand.
Vaghissima sem bianza
Very charmi ng image o fa  woman
formerly loved,
who, then, has portrayed you with
so much sim ilarity
that l look, and I speak, and I
believe to have you
before me as in the beautiful days
of love?

The dear remembrance which has
been awakened
in my heart so ardently has revived
my hopes,
so that a kiss, a vow, a c ry of love?
more I do not ask of her who is
silent foreve r.
Quando ti r ivedro
When shall I see you again,
Unfaithful lover, who were so dear
to me?
So many tea rs I have wept

Now that an other separates us,

That I fear that may be ﬂed
Every joy forever from my life.
And yet the more I despa ir,
The more I return to hoping.
The more I hate you in my mind,
The more m y soul turns again to
loving you.
When shall 1 see you again,
Unfaithful lover, who we re so dear
to me?
Ven uto é I’aprile
April has come, weaving garlands,
And bringing together nymphs and
sylvans on t he meadow.
The alders are tuning their
instruments
And at the ﬁrst melodies of the
wind
Among the branches the dance
begins.
First a faun advances...
His nymph looks at him... Sighs...
And they rush away together!

�The couples frolic among the
fountains and the streams,

And then vanish furtively in the
woods...
But Cloris, who meanwhile is
jealous of Nice,
Waits unhappy and alone, in tears,
For the dance to cease.
But a shepherd advances...
And now Cloris looks at him...
Sighs...
And they rush away togethe r!
Aria from Cosi Fan Tutte

Wolfgang Mozart

In uomini, in soldati
In men? In soliders, you hope for
ﬁdelity?
For goodness sake, don’t let anyone
hear you!
They are all made of the same
dough,
Windblown branches, changeable
breezes
Have more stability than men!
False tears, suspieious glances
Deceiving voices, lying vices
Are the foremost of their qualities!
They only love us when it suits
their delight.
Then disparage us and deny us
aﬀection.
It is useless to ask their pity!
Let ’s pay them back in their own
coin.
This accursed, indiscreet race.
Let ’s love for our convenience and
vanity!

5

w

Una donna a quindici anni
A woman of ﬁfteen years
Must know all the good met hods,
Where the devil keeps his tail,

What’s good and what’s bad.  She
must know the little malices : That

enamour lovers:
To feign laughter, to feign tears,
And invent good reasons.
She must pay attention to a h undred
at a time.
Speak through her eyes with a
thousand.
Give hope to all, be they handsome
:
or ugly, 
Knowiliow to obfuscate without”
gettinggconfused.
And know how to lie without
blushing. "
And this queen from her high
throne,  *
can make them obey with, “I can,”
and “I want.”
(It seems they like this doctrine)
Long live Despina, who knows
llow to serve!)

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